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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 04:11pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15746 of 15767)

Bluestar23:

Yes, you're right about the FAS, but the site has so much information on it that it seemed like the best I'd seen...

It sure is a good resource. It's heavily involved in 'outreach' and public education and other useful activities.

The Journal I mentioned is also useful (for those more interested in technical details).

cantabb - 04:15pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15747 of 15767)

lchic - 04:03pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15745 of 15746

Blue's link has ''CostEffective'' third line down ...

Also mentions "operationally effective." [right after 'cost effective'].-

lchic - 04:36pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15748 of 15767)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

and ... is it?

cantabb - 05:14pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15749 of 15767)

lchic - 04:36pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15748 of 15748)

and ... is it? ["operationally effective"]

How can you tell unless you test it ? And, you can't test it, unless you build it (hopefully -- but I doubt it -- cost-effectively). A vicious circle, once you take that way. And I doubt ANY system would be 100% operationally effective, against 100% of possibilities, 100% of the time. Nothing works that way, hence "effective."

Do we (in the US) really need it ? How badly we need to have it ? And many other pertinent questions !

American needs and interests are NOT going to be the same as those of Australia, South Africa, China, NK etc ! How useful are the alternatives suggested by other countries and their recommendations for protecting the US interests and needs ? [btw, Are American suggestions always acceptable to everyone else to take care of their needs/interests?]

rshow55 - 06:09pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15750 of 15767)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

bluestar23 - 02:29pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15740 says:

I am waiting; and many "more" may be secretly waiting ----for Mr. Showalter to describe his new contacts with the New York Times as he emailed them yesterday...

You'll wait a while. I saw West Side Story twice today - just wasting time, I guess. But, from a distance, it is a great series of lessons about the risks of "going off half cocked." Maria asked Tony to stop an unstoppable, limited fight - two people died, and Tony ended up murdering in a fit of passion.

Maria asked Anita to give a message - and she tried - but was hard pressed, nearly raped - and delivered a lie ( emotionally understandable in context) - - - - that caused Tony, in a fit of passion - to get himself killed.

When emotions run high - there's a big question seldom asked.

" Is this decision really something to do in a hurry ? "

I'm feeling like being quiet -

cantabb - 06:42pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15751 of 15767)

rshow55 - 06:09pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15750 of 15750)

[To bluestar23]:

You'll wait a while.

What did I tell ya, bluestar ?

I'm feeling like being quiet -

Take your time. "Finding truth" is tiring. More so when you don't know "truth" in/of what !

lchic - 08:18pm Oct 27, 2003 EST (# 15752 of 15767)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Cantabb

prototyping and modelling enable testing .... dependent upon the correct figures and info being plugged into the design of the model

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