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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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bluestar23 - 05:10pm Oct 25, 2003 EST (# 15620 of 15634)

WRC:

"Are you serious..?"

A harmless jest is occasionally in order, Mr. Cooper....dummy weapons, and particularly the fine art of camouflage, have been around for eons in warfare....of course one sets up inflatable tanks, dummy heat sources, fake airstrips, empty tents by the hundred...as prior to D-Day....

"Strategic deception" could well be part of any MD programme as well, and an entirely valid one....you seem to think it is good and necessary that exact figures of dollar amounts be published continually to satisfy your apparent desire to have complete financial information about the USA development of the MD. I am saying, firstly, that you have no right to know such things, and that to even publish them is a direct threat to National Security. Furthermore, you don't seem to realize that if information is publicly given out, it too should perhaps be part of "strategic deception"...and nothing more...

lchic - 05:28pm Oct 25, 2003 EST (# 15621 of 15634)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

NYmin-Thought :

    Showalter next time you go to New York,
  • First drink the 'truth-syrup'
  • the Arnie HULKeniser
  • Don the u-pants emblazened with the word
  • T - R - U - T - H
  • over the tights
  • Grab the Steel Skates / helmet
  • Sing a chorus or two from 'Classic
  • Railroad Songs, Vol. 1: Steel Rails '
  • Roar down the amtrak -- [amex if virtual]
  • Skate in the front door of the NYT
A word of caution 'Watch out for those Iron Horses enroute'

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lchic - 05:29pm Oct 25, 2003 EST (# 15622 of 15634)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

NK .. progress

no one's posted the new NYT link

lchic - 05:33pm Oct 25, 2003 EST (# 15623 of 15634)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Compare and contrast Canberra Speeches of

Bush / Hu

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/

rshow55 - 05:33pm Oct 25, 2003 EST (# 15624 of 15634)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Bluffing is useful in war - and some of it is unavoidable in social relations - but there are problems with bluffing - and especially when you want stable solutions.

Bluestar , my first guesses were that Jorian did indeed have some connection with the NYT - but he's said he doesn't - and there are some good reasons to respect that - though social deception is not unknown.

But Jorian is a savvy guy - with a lot of punch in his postings - and I think it is worth glancing at some Joran-s postings - before March 1, 2002 - just to show how savvy and plugged in the guy is.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md447_451b.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md492.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md495_500.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md501.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md502.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md10000s/md10087new3.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md10000s/md10144new3.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md10000s/md10152new3.htm

The thread as a memory model - and jorian_s on 3rd class mail delivery by bomber. http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md10000s/md10154new3.htm

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