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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 07:49pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15522 of 15539)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

The interesting point re the film 'beaut-mind' was that Nash stood aside and took no part whatsoever

The interesting point re the movie was the way it travelled on one track ...

Then

switched

Is Nash a truly 'free' man

Or was he too compromised, stressed and worked into the ground by 'Cantabb's US Government'

If Nash were a 'free man' he'd be free to comment --- but he isn't!

rshow55 - 07:49pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15523 of 15539)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

No need to talk about conspiracies if there was a simple closure - where people admitted to things they knew to be true.

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.R0XZbQmbQbG.4338237@.f28e622/17081

Hint: Human organizations have to act and it is important, for action, to be positive what you want to do and able to explain it.

If people are to use this board - and if I'm to be able to function - b what happened on this board has to be explained concisely in the ways that matter for action.

In essentials.

That doesn't necessarily conflict with any valid interest of the newspaper.

We don't have to be in a "zero sum" or "negative sum" game here. We could arrange a postitive sum game.

If I could model it in public - with credibility - it might be the first of many win-win games.

As a " game " player ( search "Wizard's Chess" or " Franklin " ) it doesn't matter whether I'm Ismael or not. I've been playing a game that is not a game. I was told, at an impressionable age - that unless somebody found out how to play that "game" the world would end.

I got fingered.

jorian319 - 07:51pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15524 of 15539)
The earth spin rate is slowing 2 msc/day as evidenced by the additon of a leap second every 500 days - James "I failed math" Nienhuis

The Company's core purpose is to enhance society by creating, collecting and distributing high-quality news, information and entertainment.

<emphasis added>

Seems it hasen't occured to 'someone' that these fora, comprising a very small, non revenue generating facet of NYT, fall into the latter category.

cantabb - 07:51pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15525 of 15539)

rshow55 - 05:22pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15492 of 15504)

Somebody might be interested in a Cast of Characters for this thread - not including Cantabb

You may be, but No Body who has followed this forum even for a week would be interested in yet another re-hash !

Some postings don't make it so easy to "bow out gracefully at my own whim." Since well before .... I've been in a situation where it has been very hard for me to leave this thread - and it would have been for anyone in my position. The Times as an organization surely knew that.

YOUR personal problem, NOT a concern or responsibility of anyone else, including NYT.

Sometimes the kitchen gets too hot....

I'd like a humanly workable, practically workable way to "bow out gracefully."

If SO, find it ! Instead of adding it to your Xmas wish list.

If I were an "average stockholder of the NYT" - concerned about the brand - I'd like that, too.

Once again, YOUR personal problems and the situations you get yourself into – NOT a concern of an “average NYT stockholder.” Or, the forum, or its readers/participants.

rshow55 - 05:55pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15496 of 15504)

With a letter from the New York Times acknowledging which posters were NYT employees - and some discussions to make that reasonable from a NYT point of view - it would be possible.

What a CONDITION ! Why do you think NYT would do that ? Without evidence ? Why should THAT be of ANY use to anyone ?

But it isn't as easy as you [jorian] suggest. I have been mangled and spun dry. And you've known it very well.

Why don’t you take this personal problem up with NYT ? That may be too rational for you !

rshow55 - 05:59pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15498 of 15504)

Relationships are reciprocal - and I've been asked to do work by posters who are probably NYT employees - certainly if you trust what they post - again and again and again.

Still imagining poster-identification and conspiracies.

….. a situation where the phrase "reckless endangerment" makes considerable sense.

Makes “considerable sense” to whom ? YOU !

I need to be able to walk away and function .

Attending to BOTH your needs is up to you, and you alone !

And the TIMES, by now, has some obligaitions to me.

You presented NO rational grounds for it, did you ?

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