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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:27am Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15457 of 15471)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Often - in places where oscillations are occurring in a situation - it makes sense to sort out and frame patterns of exception handling that are, logically switching patterns.

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That's "just common sense" from some perspectives - but it would be a "paradigm shift" from some other perspectives.

We're at a point where we need some clearer switching patterns. And The New York Times - to do its duty - and serve its role as censor for the rest of the press establishment - has to sort our some problems of its own - where inconsistencies need to become workable systems of exception handling. Rather than the current muddle - which is expensive to both the TIMES and the nation in many ways.

fredmoore - 08:34am Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15458 of 15471)

rshow55 - 08:27am Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15457 of 15457)

"And The New York Times - to do its duty - and serve its role as censor for the rest of the press establishment - has to sort our some problems of its own "

Watch you talkin' 'bout Willis?

If you get rid of the Ist Ammendment, Dick Wolf will be out of a job.

I can handle oscillatory solutions but puhlease leave the US constitution alone Robert.

rshow55 - 08:39am Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15459 of 15471)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

When The New York Times and its leaders make judgements - implicitly and explicitly about

. "All the news that's fit to print"

they are in an effective disciplining role and setting a standard for what is not to be published.

Nothing unconstitutional about that. But effective censorship - ( an example of self censorship, with sanctions ) in a lot of ways that matter.

The TIMES serves that role - has to - but could do it a good deal better, in some spots.

lchic - 08:42am Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15460 of 15471)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

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rshow55 - 08:51am Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15461 of 15471)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Milton Eisenhower was a wheel in the censorship apparatus of World War II - the NYT has a long corporate memory - perhaps some of you might think about how that apparatus worked - and how consistent it actually was with American ideals.

And how many ways communication that needed to happen could be, and was, facilitated through that appratus.

I think you guys may have gotten fuzzy on a number of good lessons and organizational patterns that were well worked out then - and that changed in some serious ways as we fought the Cold War - which was a war where psychological warfare - including deception in the press - was essential.

There are messes - including messes at the TIMES - that ought to be cleaned up. I don't see why it isn't done - and done gracefully.

lchic - 08:58am Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15462 of 15471)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

'fair dinkum' to quote GWB

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