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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:02am Oct 16, 2003 EST (# 15129 of 15136)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

A lot of interesting posts have gone down (from a lot of points of view) since 14394- 7 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.7FggbbL8OeL.2789261@.f28e622/16104

There are promises one makes that one doesn't have to keep. Everybody knows it - or should - and the culture tries to teach that point from an early age. A classic of that teaching - with limitations that have concerned me and lchic - is . Horton Hatches the Egg by Dr Seuss 1940

Has this thread been like that egg? Have lchic and I laid an egg ?

I've been asked to do a mission statement . For something that takes up a lot of life (and this thread has been a prison for me - and has permeated my life, since September 25, 2000 ) - there are many purposes - many missions - that have to be handled in turn.

. Ecclesiastes 3: 1-13 - was condensed and set to music by the Byrds as Turn, Turn, Turn http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~harel/cgi/page/htmlit?Turn_Turn_Turn.html

I've been thinking hard about mission statements. We're at at time where we have to deal with a paradigm change http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7726f/360

If people felt forced to confront the muddles set out in this and many other Dowd pieces - and were able to do so - that paradigm shift be would be accomplished.

Bewitched, Bothered, Billy-Goated By MAUREEN DOWD http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/16/opinion/16DOWD.html

We're close enough that it is imaginable that this paradigmatic shift in standards could become widely accepted.

. When it matters enough - it is in the public interest that people check facts and relations - in ways that can be explained - in as much detail as the explaining takes - in public.

If people knew that - and felt that way - the world would sort a lot of things out for the better.

People should know how to do the things that checking takes, by now. Sometimes - "sound bites" work - but when details matter enough - crossreferencing - and the patterns that actually work in courtrooms - have to be used. And technically, they now can be.

lchic - 09:04am Oct 16, 2003 EST (# 15130 of 15136)
TRUTH outs ultimately : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

There's a focus today on a simple transport system that's miscalculated : wind force, vehicle speed, distance.

If a simple transport system can 'go wrong' .... begs the question:

Wouldn't the USA be better deploying resources into the homeland to improve the quality of local transport navigation and monitoring --- rather than being too 'pro-active' outside it's boundaries.

If a boat service ought to have been terminated due to unusual external conditions .... or .... human-internal as in substance/liquor ...

then how can the safety of the homeland people be best improved.

Awaiting the outcome of the Bloomsberg Inquiry.

fredmoore - 09:14am Oct 16, 2003 EST (# 15131 of 15136)

Question: 'Wouldn't the USA be better deploying resources into the homeland to improve the quality of local transport navigation and monitoring --- rather than being too 'pro-active' outside it's boundaries.? '

Answer:'Confucius say: when ass-kickers (unless they have one-leg) are about, wise man does not put head in sand!'

lchic - 09:16am Oct 16, 2003 EST (# 15132 of 15136)
TRUTH outs ultimately : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

"Once reasonable reason to suspect a mistake exists, it should be morally forcing to check whether the mistake has been made or not." Robert Showalter (Guardian - Paradigm Shift Thread)

lchic - 09:21am Oct 16, 2003 EST (# 15133 of 15136)
TRUTH outs ultimately : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

If airports monitor weather, 'talk-in' planes, and close airports as necessary ..... it raises the question - why aren't those piloting 'other transport forms' given the benefit of 'techno-whiz' decision making systems such as air traffic control (advice).

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