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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 08:39pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (#
14930 of 14963) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Almarst http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Dfe4bfWiO7k.2414738@.f28e622/16634
- it may be that Ms Rice has some very strong feelings.
For myself, I envy Bush for having the loyalty of such a
courageous lady.
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I've tried to be courageous too - and keep my promises.
I'm trying to collect my courage - not as
courage to lie - but as courage to tell the truth
effectively.
Some folks connected to the NYT, it seems to me, have shown
reasonable courage, too. Within limits.
I'm taking a rest, as Jorian suggested I might
reasonably do.
cantabb
- 09:34pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (#
14931 of 14963)
wrcooper - 07:35pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14924 of
14930)
(to klsanford0)
However, I see you're still getting sucked
into commenting on rshow55 and lchic and cantabb's posts.
Are you beginning to understand the futility and frustration
that accompanies any such attempt?
You STILL can't see the difference between my effort for
the past 3 WEEKS and the goings-on for the past 3 YEARS that
included you as a 'regular'.
Still annoyingly condescending to posters !
Things and posters do not disappear -- just because YOU
"ignored" them. How presumptuous !
Still pushing your Rx that did NOT work, does NOT work ?
Your experience is YOUR own, depends on how YOU handle things
(e.g., actively engaged in discussions with rshow55/lchic;
going on numerous detours with them on poster identity;
arm-chair psychoanalysis; repeatedly extending invitations for
a meeting; meeting him/his wife and reporting on the mtg.;
continued differences; and your REGRETS at having done that
--- ALL posted here in excruciating details). As some
one said, who in the right mind would do that ?
NOT the way I handle things !
If you can't see the difference, or don't want to -- the
"angry" poster is least of your problems.
klsanford0
- 09:42pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (#
14932 of 14963)
Either/Or: One can beat up on Showalter or discuss Missile
Defense: a False Dichotomy...
Both can be complementary, both practiced at the same time,
and are mutually reinforcing.....
cantabb
- 09:44pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (#
14933 of 14963)
rshow55 - 08:39pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14930 of
14931)
it may be that Ms Rice has some very strong
feelings. For myself, I envy Bush for having the loyalty of
such a courageous lady.
What about the "world Asset", lchic ? Not good enough ? Not
a match ?
I've tried to be courageous too - and keep
my promises.
What happened then ? Chickened out ?
I'm trying to collect my courage - not as
courage to lie - but as courage to tell the truth
effectively.
How do you do that, "collect" your courage ? Stand in front
of he mirror, make menascing faces and grunt ?
TRUTH, according you and lchic ? That rare variety ?
Some folks connected to the NYT, it seems to
me, have shown reasonable courage, too. Within limits.
Why can't YOU, then ? Effective "courage" is mostly "within
limits" -- Otherwise, we might call it "rash," or "reckless"
etc.
I'm taking a rest, as Jorian suggested I
might reasonably do.
Good.
Can't you do that WITHOUT anyone suggesting it ?
klsanford0
- 09:47pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (#
14934 of 14963)
The opponents of MD should, as I've noted, give up their
opposition to the current plans ( it's a done deal, all the
research and effort), and focus on changing those areas of
system architecture that they feel aren't cost effective....
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