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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 04:54pm Oct 12, 2003 EST (# 14843 of 14863)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

There's been a lot of posting since 13693 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.g0RGbgQ1Nxp.2206183@.f28e622/15386 , which starts

There's an unsolved problem in the world about end games - and it is a big problem.

It is now, I believe, a soluble problem.

When I started on this board - I'd worked on that problem a long time. But I didn't expect I'd have to try to do a kind of Wizard's Chess http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.g0RGbgQ1Nxp.2206183@.f28e622/15094 - . Or a prototype of such a game.

Maybe this thread is just a prototype - with (very good) stand-ins -but judging from the degree attack when I've asked who gisterme is - and the significant efforts of jorian319

http://www.mrshowalter.net/jorian319_Mar20_May26_2003_WrittenOut.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/Jorian319_May30_toOc9_2003.htm

and cantabb http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_toOct_10.htm

some able people may in fact be paying attention.

I think we know a great deal ( more than we admit ) about what we need to get much better end games - and what we need to guard against.

The idea that the US can simply keep the world in order by brute force is in the process of failing. Some better solutions ought not to be so far away - if we do some "connecting the dots" - .

lchic - 05:05pm Oct 12, 2003 EST (# 14844 of 14863)
Truth outs in the end : truth has to be morally forcing : build on truth it's a strong foundation

It's an open secret that the world are 'ticked off' with the USA because it's taken the 'us' (world) out of important international decision making ... that's why they've stepped back into spectator land.

rshow55 - 05:19pm Oct 12, 2003 EST (# 14845 of 14863)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The United States is losing some of the most basic things real power requires - by violating promises it has made. We're in a time of transition. And some basic rules - incuding Berle's rules of power - are important to remember.

Basic Human needs: 666 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.g0RGbgQ1Nxp.2206183@.f28e622/826

Logic - 668 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.g0RGbgQ1Nxp.2206183@.f28e622/828 and things worth preserving: 670 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.g0RGbgQ1Nxp.2206183@.f28e622/830

And we know some important things we didn't know before - including very important thing set out in the fine NYT Science articles cited here 14779 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.g0RGbgQ1Nxp.2206183@.f28e622/16490

To sort things out - we need to know how we are logical and able - how we are "wired up" - and what fairness can reasonably be - for balanced solutions that people can actually live with comfortably and safely.

We don't have to fight as much, or as uncontrollably, as we are fighting now.

klsanford0 - 07:33pm Oct 12, 2003 EST (# 14846 of 14863)

rshow55 and ichic burning up the Forum again....it's amazing how many posts these two can generate....

manjumicha20 - 10:41pm Oct 12, 2003 EST (# 14847 of 14863)

You sure don't help, moron.

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