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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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lchic
- 07:42am Oct 12, 2003 EST (#
14812 of 14823) Truth outs in the end : truth has
to be morally forcing : build on truth it's a stong
foundation
bbc | Iraq's economy will shrink 22% this year, having
fallen 21% in 2002 and 12% in 2001, the United Nations and the
World Bank have estimated.
The figures, which have been published ahead of a major
meeting of donor nations, suggest that reconstruction work in
Iraq will be slower to take effect than originally hoped.
Average income in Iraq fell from $3,600 per person in 1980
to between $770 and $1,020 by 2001 and will be just $450-610
by the end of 2003, the UN and World Bank said.
Even by the end of 2004, the two organisations estimate
that average income could be lower than in 2001.
Plans to restore oil and gas production, refining, and
pipeline capacity remain unclear
World Bank : The figures are contained in the latest
version of the World Bank's Joint Iraq Needs Assessment which
is to be presented to international donors on 23 October.
......
... unemployment / oil revenues / reconstruction
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3181248.stm
wrcooper
- 10:30am Oct 12, 2003 EST (#
14813 of 14823)
In re: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.hRgzbrokNWv.2110762@.f28e622/16519
klsanford0
Among all the threats we face, that of a intercontinental
missile strike figures toward the bottom or at the bottom. Yet
the DoD will be spending a disproportionately huge amount of
money trying to defend against it. Either this is tunnel
thinking held over from Cold War priorities, or it's sheer
porkbarrel politics. The diehards claim the threat is real,
but post-9/11 realities cast NMD in a pale light. Any
pennyante rogue nation, like North Korea, who wanted,
suicidally, to strike at the homeland of the United States
wouldn't launch an easily trackable ICBM from within its own
borders, thereby incurring a massive counterstrike. It would
pack the warhead in a ship container full of insundries and
souvenirs rigged with a remote switch or a timer and detonate
it in Los Angeles harbor. Or, if they did have fissile
material, they'd build a backpack bomb and smuggle a suicide
bomber across our borders along some lonely stretch of
uninhabited coastline and march him into downtown Manhattan.
Let's get real.
I might be in favor of a minimal R&D effort to continue
to study the options, but Bush's rush to deployment of an
unworkable system costing billions of scarily scarce federal
dollars is the height of irresponsibility. It does nothing to
further national security; in fact I'd argue that, by
diverting our attention from more immediate threats, it
lessens it.
klsanford0
- 01:42pm Oct 12, 2003 EST (#
14814 of 14823)
WRC:
"post-9/11 realities cast NMD in a pale light."
No, you are wrong. You seem to think that the west faces
only one type of threat, that of terrorism....perhaps the
world will change quite a bit in the next ten or twenty years,
who knows the future..? One seeks to protect against the
unknown as well....against threats not yet imminent, right..?
In fact the 9/11 shows most clearly, not what you say, but
precisely the utter unpredictablity of the threat, n'est-ce
pas...?
It is of no moment that the MD of whatever type does not
now work well, or currently at all. Presumably, it may well
work in the future. You do not know that it will not. The
threat MD is designed to protect against has little to do with
the terrorism, even state-sponsored. The MD exists and is
researched because of the existence of Ballistic missiles and
their highly destructive nuclear warheads. Any defensive
concept other than the MAD is highly preferable, as MAD relies
literally on the Nuclear destruction of one's own nation. The
West should rightly be desperate to avoid its own destruction
under the MAD.....it's the very worst option for deterrence.
It puts you and me under the nuclear gun.....and I don't like
living with some moronic Communist pointing a gun directly at
my head...that's not how I live my life.
Here in Canada we are overjoyed about MD...overjoyed...it's
perfect for us. We get the best and most expensive R & D
money can buy for a North American defense...USA must by
default protect us too...and pay not one cent for it. It's
just about perfect...
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