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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 06:19pm Oct 11, 2003 EST (#
14794 of 14808) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
14779 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16490
This is superb:
A War-Weary People Reach Out in Pain — and Hope By
JOHN F. BURNS http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/weekinreview/12BURN.html
" Perhaps, after all, it is the politicians
and their formulas that matter, not the common person's
voice, at least as expressed to an outsider judged eager to
hear expressions of good will."
Could we have logical problems - control
problems - calibration problems that we might come to
understand, and handle better?
I think so. And cites in 14779 show
beautiful NYT articles that connect to key reasons.
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@6@.4a90f6e9/85
A lot of plots look like images you see in many fractals -
and some plots of this kind that are practical are shown in
books like Analysis of Nonlinear Control Systems by Dunstan
Graham and Duane McRuer 1961 - Dover ed 1971
Some interesting cites follow in 14779 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16490
Mankind's Inhumanity to Man and Woman - As natural as human
goodness? 468-470 reviews some key discussions on this
thread. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085/515
The beginning of that thread is interesting, too. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085/0
from the script of Casablanca http://6nescripts.free.fr/Casablanca.pdf
p. 92 - cantabb - are you still "shocked" that
discussions about international negotiation are going on here
- http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/15013
beside very serious discussions - including excellent posts
from Cooper.
wrcooper 14765-8 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16476
wrcooper 14770-1 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16481
wrcooper 14774-6 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16485
Technical issues are interesting - but the most
interesting thing about Star Wars is that it persists
with so many compelling arguments against it - because our
discourse practices are so degenerate.
It makes sense to discuss that.
wrcooper
- 07:45pm Oct 11, 2003 EST (#
14795 of 14808)
In re: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16491
klsanford0
You wrote:
"can it hurt the target?"
Well...most nuclear explosions tend to do
some slight damage...
Please clarify. Are you suggesting that the Bush
administration's NBM system will use nuclear-tipped
interceptors?
If so, you are incorrect. The current system proposes to
use kinetic devices--smart pebbles--that will slam into an
incoming warhead. They're also talking about using beamed
energy to target missiles during boost phase, but I've never
seen any discussion of using nuclear weapons. What is your
source?
wrcooper
- 07:48pm Oct 11, 2003 EST (#
14796 of 14808)
Oh, sorry, wrong acronym. It's not NBM. Don't know where
that came from. It's NMD, short for National Missile Defense.
rshow55
- 08:02pm Oct 11, 2003 EST (#
14797 of 14808) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
wrcooper 14765-8 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16476
wrcooper 14770-1 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16481
wrcooper 14774-6 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gKLKb77KNPW.0@.f28e622/16485
klsanford0
- 08:05pm Oct 11, 2003 EST (#
14798 of 14808)
WRC. to me:
"Please clarify."
Just read the post after the one you quoted.....
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