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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:26pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14737 of 14746)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Dealing with cantabb - though there's a lot of fine scale stuff - the large scale issues are especially interesting. One is that he's really working at it - there's a lot more since http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_to10_4.htm - and if, as one would expect, cantabb is a person with status and respected skills at the NYT - the effort has to be expensive - in wage time - and perhaps in status terms, as well. Perhaps cantabb is "just following orders" - and not to be blamed for the spectacle - but the more innocent he is - the more wasteful somebody(s) above him look.

Cantabb's basic plan is to mix up and poison any coherent logical structure at all - with microscale attacks. I haven't put him on "ignore" - he's too much fun to read - but I mostly appreciate how his efforts - taken in the large - reinforce the notion that some of the "powers that be" on this thread are in a conflicted situation - with limited capacities and options - and showing that in public.

jorian319 - 01:34pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14738 of 14746)
"Statements on frequently important subjects are interesting." -rshow55

Cantabb's basic plan is to mix up and poison any coherent logical structure at all

That must be idle surmise, given that you have provided no logical coherent structure whatsoever upon which to test it.

rshow55 - 01:35pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14739 of 14746)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I misspoke. I'm not at all sure that NYT

"powers that be"

are posting on this thread. But it is fun to think about it - and a human being - reading this thread - and looking at scales and durations - is likely to think about it. Jorian319 , for example - often takes an especially well informed and lofty view of things. I feel honored just reading his effort to impersonate a high-shot - from a very well connected journalistic family - if I may believe what he writes.

lchic - 02:56pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14740 of 14746)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/analysis/default.stm

lchic - 02:59pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14741 of 14746)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

the new alignment to The New York Times

    Condi used a trick she learned from Rummy: pre-emption. She outflanked the famous Washington infighter by talking about the new alignment to The New York Times before he had a chance to object.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/09/opinion/09DOWD.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1065724827-tZMRE4WfNW3/BQDK06GzBg

lchic - 03:04pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14742 of 14746)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

France - nuclear energy - power stations

Power shortages

The French move comes in the wake of a nationwide power cut in Italy, which highlighted the country's dependency on imported energy, and massive power cuts in Denmark, Sweden and the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3177360.stm

bbbuck - 03:06pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14743 of 14746)

What the hell does 'gaslighting' mean in that context?

Is Condi gaslighting Rumsfield?

I read the article but I did not see a definition of 'gaslighting'.

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