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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 11:41am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14733 of 14746)

fredmoore - 11:20am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14732 of 14732)

Cantabbelle Rap: ( As sung by Cantabb him/her self.) Gunna tell a story yes yo heard it before-- Mere verbiage -- dismissed galore: May be “reasons” that sound “logical” to you and that doesn’t say or amount to much, does it ? ................... Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem?

More juvenile stuff from schoolyard/barnyard fredmore.

What happened to your "PSOT! Not just your usual tiresome BS FISKING. (PSOT: Post Something On Topic)" ?

Couldn't even stay with your own 'concoction', either, eh ?

Sounds like another "His Master's Voice" from somewhere else, downunder.

Hear ye, hesr ye: "It got understood and exposed"

fredmoore - 11:50am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14734 of 14746)

Cantabb, you pedant, you can't insult me because I hold no value for the way you think.

ROTFLMAO

cantabb - 12:19pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14735 of 14746)

fredmoore - 11:50am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14734 of 14734)

Cantabb, you pedant, you can't insult me because I hold no value for the way you think.

Another school-yard comment ?

Feel free to insult others -- totally unprovoked, BUT start whining and going berserk when you get drubbed for your behavior ?

ROTFLMAO

In your case, "RITSYMLMSAO" ! Hint: SY in the middle stands for, you guessed it, School Yard ! The rest you casn figure it out, can't you ?

"Irregardless" of this, What happened to your KAEP-MD connection ?

Hear ye, hear ye: "It got understood and exposed"

rshow55 - 01:13pm Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14736 of 14746)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Some ideas are so basic that they occur in many places - for reasons that are not random - though they need not be directly connected. I liked

Is Condi Gaslighting Rummy? By MAUREEN DOWD http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/09/opinion/09DOWD.html which ends:

Maybe Rummy hasn't brushed up lately on the Washington rulebook he wrote in the 1970's — after his stints as President Gerald Ford's chief of staff and secretary of defense. Otherwise, he might have recalled this Rumsfeld rule before he bullied the world and ripped up Iraq: "It is easier to get into something than to get out of it."

. . . . here's a related posting - with a fine link

Missile Defense #14115 - lchic Sep 29, 2003 08:53 am http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.IpzAb2iyMSf.1425952@.f28e622/15821

Stench in the Trench - easy to fall into, hard to get out of the futility of war

http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/trenchlife.htm

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Here's a neural pattern that may have nothing to do with logic at all - though it did not happen at random David Regan's Data _ Resonance-like behavior measured in brain. http://www.mrshowalter.net/regandat

When people make associations on complex data sets - for example - when they recognize one of some thousands of popular songs they know after hearing the first few seconds (very complicated waveform patterns ) - something is happening very fast.

We don't know how it happens. We know that it happens. It isn't random - and the ability to do associations at the level people show is enough so that the correllations of latent semantic analysis can happen - in the ways that matter for logic - in the brain.

Along with a lot of other things that we also know happen - that permit image and language processing, and other things.

Some "complicated" things involve simple lessons. For instance - some people learn mixing theory - which has some important lessons for dealing with Cantabb - and other microscale, noisy events.

For efficient mixing - you have to worry about scale - and get reasonable mixing at larger scales before messing much at microscales. The logic of chopping carrots is much the same - you don't start micro-dicing at one end of the carrot. You'd never finish if you did it that way - anyway it would be, far, far less efficient than dealing with large scale matters (well enough) and working along a properly chosen cascade of scales.

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