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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
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rshow55
- 03:11pm Oct 4, 2003 EST (#
14297 of 14302) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
We need common ground to agree or disagree clearly
about anything much. I know Cantabb may dispute the
relevance of these basic pieces to this board - but there's
much discussion of discourse going on here. Both are short.
How a Story is Shaped. http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ducksoup/555/storyshape.html
A Communication Model http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML
Especially A Communication Model http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML
Does Cantabb , or anybody else, have objections to
the validity of these pieces - in terms of the
generalizations they make.
To discuss the "swirl of language" - agreement here would
help.
lchic
- 03:28pm Oct 4, 2003 EST (#
14298 of 14302) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Here's a 'power' question
The concept of 'Empire America'?
Looking at the straight totalled number of voter in the
2000 election http://www.wittendal.com/usa1.htm
it seems so many americans were simply 'out to lunch' on that
day -- and/or had their franchaise to vote withdrawn
eliminating them a say in their democratic representation ...
in the land of 'Liberty' and 'Freedom' ... why do so many have
to endure 'internal exile'!? http://www.dogwoodcenter.org/references/Toppo00.html
Population USA 281,421,906 in 2000 census http://www.usatoday.com/graphics/census2000/usnav/usnav.htm
cantabb
- 03:42pm Oct 4, 2003 EST (#
14299 of 14302)
rshow55 - 03:02pm Oct 4, 2003 EST (# 14295 of 14297)
Could you restate your questions?
Could you read any of my several posts in which I repeated
them? Did you miss them each time ?
Lchic tells me that the board reads pretty
well with your posts on "ignore" - and the fact is, your
work hasn't been the only thing I've been concerned with.
Though I do appreciate both the increased civility and the
clarity of your posts this morning.
Tell your esteemed collaborator, lchic, that putting
your head in the sand MIGHT work better for you. And her too !
MY "work" ? I just asked you 2 simple questions, over half
a dozen times. And you have NOT been able to answer them :
YET, you had many, many posts with tortured rationalizations,
in addition to more than usual dose of irrelevancies.
Cantabb , you say I think I have an idea
where the difficulty may lie.
Could you share your thoughts in a civil
way? I don't promise to agree with them - or even attend to
them, but I might. If you think I'm trying to do something
impossible - or think the key difficulty is limitations of
my own - you can say so - but please do so civilly.
You hasve demonstrated that you can not focus. And show
no basic sense of logic.
Besides, your {or our] opinions are NOT fact, and just
because you repeated the same a dozen time, your opinions
don't become facts -- because of this exercise ! To use one of
your analogies, GRINDING wheat anf chaff will get you some
powder, neither pure wheat or pure chaff.
Hint: Don't sell it as 100% wheat !
You agree or NOT -- the least of my concerns.
We all have cognitive limits - but I'm not
sure that all the cognitive limits under discussion are my
own. I am sure that some subjects can't be taught to some
people - beyond a point. http://www.mrshowalter.net/PiagetCognitiveLimits.htm
We ALL have our own limits [in any area]. Some have more
than the others.
But you can't teach a guy unwilling to learn.
I think a lot of my postings yesterday
worked well, starting with 14281 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.YnSVbfgeLNt.497126@.f28e622/15958
- and were on topic.
You might have thought so. lchic would have thought
so too.
What else is new ?
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