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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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fredmoore - 06:15am Oct 2, 2003 EST (# 14215 of 14217)

cantabb - 01:30am Oct 2, 2003 EST (# 14213 of 14214)

"Did you know what Madame LaFarge was said to have really done ? "

Enlighten US ! You have a Phd in Mme Defargerie no doubt? I guarantee everyone else will say she was knitting.

Here is the relevant text: "Take you my knitting," said Madame Defarge, placing it in her lieutenant's hands, "and have it ready for me in my usual seat. Keep me my usual chair. Go you there, straight, for there will probably be a greater concourse than usual, to-day."

Mind you, we BOTH got the name wrong ... but so did several web sites I had consulted so I don't see that as a 'biggy'.

So, you are as confused as ever I see. Everyone acknowledges that Rshow is a problem for this forum. Only YOU are incapable of understanding that there are other solutions to that problem than proposing the Forum move or close down and in the mean time carrying on with useless, (ineffective) self aggrandising questions.

I was WRONG only about one thing ... about you being capable with logic. You are incapable of logic ... because you have a closed mind.

Oh and yes "Asking him to focus, make a reasoned argument, and substantiate what he claims" is negative when you OUGHT to know by now that you are just .... well ... knitting (or is that Nitting).

rshow55 - 07:34am Oct 2, 2003 EST (# 14216 of 14217)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

85 Percent Of Public Believe Bush's Approval Rating Fell In Last Month http://www.theonion.com/3938/news1.html

WASHINGTON, DC—According to a Gallup public-opinion opinion poll released Monday, a solid 85 percent of the American people strongly believe that the American people no longer strongly believe that Bush is performing effectively as president.

"Due to perceived dissatisfaction over the economy, a strong majority of Americans believe that a strong majority of Americans believe that Bush's reputation has taken a hit," said Paul Mallock, a spokesman for Gallup. "In addition, we discovered a small but growing minority that believes a small but vocal minority is dissatisfied with the way the president is handling the situation in Iraq. The small but growing minority we found believes that a small but vocal group of Americans thinks that reconstruction is messier and more expensive than Bush originally said it would be."

. . .

Such public reactions to Gallup-poll findings are typical, Mallock said.

"We often see a desire to acquiesce among survey participants," polling-analysis analyst Tamara Bello-Dockett said. "There's a pendulum effect to the feedback loop generated by the see-saw aspect of how people form their opinions about their perceptions of others' beliefs.

In math - the notion of "rates of change of rates of change" are not jokes - but higher order derivatives -and the logic involving derivatives of derivatives isn't circular. "Self reference" - spoofed with sophisitication by the Onion here - is often an indispensible cycling back and forth. It often converges as "infinite series" often converge - though it is well understood how to produce divergence, too.

the Onion often produces results that live up to its trademark of "America's Finest News Source" - and a piece I've cited on this thread before - from 18 Jan 2001 - is worth another look. http://www.theonion.com/onion3701/bush_nightmare.html ( People reading it may execute a series of loops that might converge. ) Anyway, I think http://www.theonion.com/onion3701/bush_nightmare.html is worth another look - and can guess that Onion folks think so, too - since they've made it available on the net again.

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