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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

Read Debates, a new Web-only feature culled from Readers' Opinions, published every Thursday.


Earliest Messages Previous Messages Recent Messages Outline (14198 previous messages)

lchic - 07:11am Oct 1, 2003 EST (# 14199 of 14217)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

It gets back to scary Mary's little lamb

Psycho Warfare

That's LIES LIES LIES

Tall stories

Bent and twisted stories

The ambushing and maniplation of truth

Taxpayer funding of the military complex missile store

Commissions to contractors

A quasi- Red Scheme | employment scheme

Institionalised 'thinking' - ie NON-thinking

A need to create WAR to utilize and burn-out military gear

Failure to 'think-tank' out true priorities

TRUE PRIORITIES relate not to war rather peace

PEACE on a peaceful planet

Currently the planet throws it's 'slops' everywhere without concern for it's future ... with a need to provide for 6billon+ people.

rshow55 - 07:31am Oct 1, 2003 EST (# 14200 of 14217)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

gisterme http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.tmgbbvWoKQE.3022920@.f28e622/15900 says:

You simply made up that ridiculous baloney you claim I "suggested" you post. I knew noting about that tripe until you posted it. To me it was not interesting at all. Your statement that I suggested you post it is a lie.

Is gisterme intentionally misleading? Am I? Could this be an honest difference of opinion?

Or a partly honest one?

I went back and checked - and I want to be careful what I say - because I personally think gisterme is, or represents, the Bush administration - and I wonder about both intention and judgement in making that posting. ( http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.tmgbbvWoKQE.3022920@.f28e622/15900 )

What's under discussion relates to 4701 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.tmgbbvWoKQE.3022920@.f28e622/5949 and what happened, and was written, afterwards.

I'm choosing my words with care - and wondering what gisterme's motivations may be.

Postings of mine a little later - for instance here - http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/352 - bear on the case. Note that at that time I didn't think gisterme was Bush - but thought that gisterme was so high in the administration that (he-she) might be Rice.

I'm taking my time here - because the stakes seem high - and opportunities for learning and progress seem high, too.

rshow55 - 07:57am Oct 1, 2003 EST (# 14201 of 14217)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Sometimes I move more slowly than I intend because of social pressures. 13214 - 13215 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.tmgbbvWoKQE.3022920@.f28e622/14897

For instance, yesterday, I promised to do a technical posting - on the connection of latent semantic analysis - statisitics - logic - and schema - and the importance of loop tests. Worked on it all day. Haven't finished it. I didn't mention these key things when I discussed it yesterday - things that go well beyond statistics and logic - that go into our being human .

How a Story Is Shaped http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ducksoup/555/storyshape.html

A Communication Model http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML

Our society, and all mankind, have some difficulties we need to be clearer about pertaining to what lying is - in real contexts - and what cheating is.

jorian319 - 02:37pm Oct 1, 2003 EST (# 14202 of 14217)
"You know I'm an idiot like you know evolution is true" - - James Nienhuis

Hey Robert,

Is it safe to assume that while you and Ike were keeping the world safe you mamaged to accumulate considerable personal net worth?

If so, I'd like to propose a bet.

I have low to mid six figures that says you're wrong about Gisterme. Name a number, and for enough of a cut I think I can get Gisterme to open the book so we can agree on who he is (or, more succinctly, is not).

Gisterme

- if this is out of the question, just say so. But I'd love the opportunity to live off Rshow's good graces for a few years - wouldn't you?

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