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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:25pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14151 of 14160)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

"Reliance" happens in stages - - and ought to.

Much more work needs to be done at the modelling stage - and people need to learn how to make modelling much more useful.

From the very first time Flugge started pounding on me - that was my main job.

I've done my damndest - and I think my work ought to be used.

Right now, I'm having a beer.

Tomorrow, as Scarlett O'Hara said, is another day.

cantabb - 07:31pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14152 of 14160)

rshow55 - 06:20pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14144 of 14146)

Endless slop !

IN NEGOTIATION PROBLEMS - THE SAME ISSUES EXIST - AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE WORKABLE SIMULATIONS OF THE ACTORS WHO WISH TO HAVE A STABLE COOPERATION - WITHIN PREDICTABLE AND STABLE LIMITS.

Don’t you want to know WHAT EXACTLY are the issues, and prepare for them --- before the face-to-face ? Or, you want to discover that, face-to-face too ?

To get that information - generally - you need little fights - and enough controls that those little fights don't become big fights.

You mean people CAN get the needed information easily this way [with "little fights”] ? Could it be that it’s the continued resistance to giving the information that leads to what you call “big fights”? Like here, in case of getting information from you on your claims !

To get the United States government to master this material - rather than get it backwards in a way that will generate explosive instabilities - I feel I need to have face to face contact with people I'm communicating with.

Preposterous !

It’s YOU who need to “master” whatever you mean by ‘this’ material: the material that’s widely accessible in the public media, and is by NO means classified. How much do you think you can do face-to-face when you couldn’t follow even a fraction of the material discussed here with you ? REality is NOT your paranoia: rather, you paranoia may be reality !

For some jobs, house arrest doesn't work well enough.

You’ve said this a few times already. ARE you under “house arrest” ? Or you FEEL as if you are under “house arrest” ? BIG difference !

If you are, that’s your personal matter – absolutely nothing to do with the Forum or the discussion.

rshow55 - 06:25pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14145 of 14146)

For the problems involved - it takes time and staff - and some willingness to have controlled small fights…….. It is my technical judgement that unless this material is learned - it is likely that the world will be destroyed by an explosive instability involving nuclear weapons.

It’s just your paranoia, NOT anything technical !

But if you wonder why I'm working so hard that's why.

NO BODY knows what you are working on, and why so hard ? And achieved WHAT ?

rshow55 - 06:57pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14147 of 14150)

We have to learn to be more careful - more competent - and more caring.

Another non sequitur.

Who wouldn't want to do that ?

OUT FOR TONIGHT.

Thanks for posting your schedule !

They'll try very hard to manage in your absence.

lchic - 07:33pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14153 of 14160)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Military Games model warfare - past

Hollywood models warfare = future

Carefulness models peace - today

cantabb - 07:35pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14154 of 14160)

Posts like above - Zen conundrums

cantabb - 07:41pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14155 of 14160)

Actually, the faux-Zen variety.

mazza9 - 11:26pm Sep 29, 2003 EST (# 14156 of 14160)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

The Rshow and lchic monsters feed on your posts. The solution is to place them, (including Alarmist and Rotteneggs)on the ignore posts. When they have only themselves to talk to they will eventually wither and go to the Guardian where they can commisserate with fellow travelers.

The snippets that I see as Jorian and Cantabb et al reference the Rshow posts, I can see that the egotistical rants of Robert continue unabated. Eventually the NYTimes will take action, (then again maybe not) but at least we can get back on point and pursue an intellectual dialogue without these sorry sickos!

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