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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2003 - 10:09pm Sep 18, 2003 EST (# 13769 of 13824)

Project Censored's Annual List - The "Top Ten Censored Stories" - http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16784

1. The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance

2. Homeland Security Threatens Civil Liberties

3. US Illegally Removes Pages from Iraq UN Report

4. Rumsfeld's Plan to Provoke Terrorists

5. The Effort to Make Unions Disappear

6. Closing Access to Information Technology

7. Treaty Busting By the United States

8. US/British Forces Continue Use of Depleted Uranium Weapons Despite Massive Evidence of Negative Health Effects

9. In Afghanistan: Poverty, Women's Rights and Civil Disruption Worse then Ever

10. Africa Faces New Threat of New Colonialism

The 15 stories cited as runners-up to the top ten most censored stories of the year are the following:

#11: U.S. Implicated in Taliban Massacre #12: Bush Administration Behind Failed Military Coup in Venezuela #13: Corporate Personhood Challenged #14: Unwanted Refugees a Global Problem #15: U.S. Military's War on the Earth #16: Plan Puebla-Panama and the FTAA #17: Clear Channel Monopoly Draws Criticism #18: Charter Forest Proposal Threatens Access to Public Lands #19: U.S. Dollar vs. the Euro: Another Reason for the Invasion of Iraq #20: Pentagon Increases Private Military Contracts #21: Third World Austerity Policies: Coming Soon to a City Near You #22: Welfare Reform Up For Reauthorization, but Still No Safety Net #23: Argentina Crisis Sparks Cooperative Growth #24: Aid to Israel Fuels Repressive Occupation in Palestine #25: Convicted Corporations Receive Perks Instead of Punishment

jorian319 - 10:49pm Sep 18, 2003 EST (# 13770 of 13824)

Rise above it. Apply a little grace if you have it in you.

gisterme, you've been a fair model of graciousness around here, and look what it got you. You're Bush, in the mind of one of the most prolix posters I've ever seen. You even have your own webpage! I say, show as little class as possible around here, lest ye be taken for Someone!

gisterme - 12:49am Sep 19, 2003 EST (# 13771 of 13824)

jorian -

Thanks. As for the advice, you're probably right; but it would seem it's already too late. I think that horse is already a-wanderin'. :-)

Cantabb hasn't done anything to me, but I know Fred and you well enough to know that you're not dummies and not mean or unreasonable men. Even when we've strongly disagreed about things neither of you has taken to name-calling or shown the least bit of pettiness. That's way above school yard behavior in my book.

I've got to think you guys have a long track record with cantabb when you both and even bb seem to go ballistic immediately upon his arrival. Something's up.

cantabb - 04:31am Sep 19, 2003 EST (# 13772 of 13824)

gisterme - 09:40pm Sep 18, 2003 EST (# 13768 of 13771)

cantabb - "...IF you care to see the sequence of exchange, you'll realize that it was HE who started this cycle..."

gisterme: So what? Rise above it. Apply a little grace if you have it in you.

Once again, I suggest YOU direct THIS to Fredmoore. NOT me ! OK ?

You forget that, in my responses to him, I have NOT stooped to that level, despite his provocations right from his first post to me. You must NOT have read the exchange.

IF you're asking me to keep ignoring unprovoked insults and school-yard juvenile remarks directed to me, and are the 'advising' me to 'rise above' them, you're badly missing the point.

NEXT time you're interested in 'mediation', I suggest you at least first review things carefully, and direct your comments, if you feel compelled to make them, accordingly.

cantabb - 04:41am Sep 19, 2003 EST (# 13773 of 13824)

gisterme - 12:49am Sep 19, 2003 EST (# 13771 of 13772)

I've got to think you guys have a long track record with cantabb when you both and even bb seem to go ballistic immediately upon his arrival. Something's up.

Once again, do you know who personally attacked whom first? Totally unprovoked, in response to MY post that WAS not specifically directed to him ? Fredmoore, and then bbbuck. BOTH unprovoked, both school yard name-calling !

If you really want to know what's up: Read the exchange.

That's NOT how one resolves 'conflicts', if that's what you think you were trying to do !

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