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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 04:20pm Sep 14, 2003 EST (# 13662 of 13668)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

When I think of gisterme - I have some mixed feelings associating him with the words

cheat, con artist, con man, deceiver, deluder, dissimulator, equivocator, fabler, fabricator, fabulist, false witness, falsifier, fibber, jive turkey, maligner, misleader, perjurer, phony, prevaricator, promoter, storyteller, trickster

- - but I do think that he should be checked - and enough is at stake that it would be quite justified to do so against his will. The issue of what cheating is is becoming a major one with regard to the Bush administration and people associated with it - and Almarst isn't the only one concerned - by a long shot. And though gisterme may not be closely connected to the Bush administration - he's done a good enough - extensive enough imitation to be worth checking.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/Sequential.htm

Posts by Gisterme are set out at http://www.mrshowalter.net/PostsBy_Gisterme.htm

rshow55 - 04:44pm Sep 14, 2003 EST (# 13663 of 13668)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Loyalty is an essential virtue - but to do any complicated job - responsible people have to ask

. What matters?

. In what order do the issues involved matter in this particular case?

and

. How much to the issues involve matter under the particular circumstances involved?

With current linguistic connections - and the emotions involved - you can't even talk about these things intelligently - if anybody objects to anything at all at an emotional level.

That makes negotiation tough. Or discovering truth - even "obvious" truth.

Under certain stupid conditions that occur with monotonous frequency - people seem to be wired up so that bloody fights are inevitable.

Some of the problems involved are technical - and fixable. The points involved are obvious - and basically simple - but there are strong emotions involved - and problems of repression in every sense of the word.

fredmoore - 04:53pm Sep 14, 2003 EST (# 13664 of 13668)

Robert, Re: your difficulty with an apology.

An apology could easily go something like this:

OOOps sorry Gisterme, I can see now you are just an ex-submariner with sound, disciplined ideas and not connected to government.

Now what do you think of my towed PV array idea and can you assist me in getting the idea up to speed. Your Navy experience should be invaluable.

  • ******

    Now I don't know Gisterme from a bar of soap ... but ... that would do the trick for me. Mind you without the Mystique of your allegations no one might ever bother to post here. That's the risk you must take.

    Hope this helps

    Cheers

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