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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:42pm Sep 13, 2003 EST (# 13645 of 13655)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Gisterme - since I think you're such an important person - and I've gotten tired going over in my mind all the reasons I feel I should apologize to you - I'll wait till morning to give you a more complete apology.

Before thatt - if you care to - answer me this.

If you rule out the idea that I should just take your unsupported word for things - could you explain to me what's unreasonable in what I said here?

I've posted strong suggestions that gisterme was connected to the Bush administration - and was actively misrepresenting that. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.eea14e1/10363

On the assumption that I have no obligation - under the circumstances - simply to take your unsupported word for something.

That's an assumption that I don't feel like apologizing for making.

Back tomorrow morning.

almarst2003 - 10:22pm Sep 13, 2003 EST (# 13646 of 13655)

While an objective survey of opinion in Iraq is impossible, it's clear that many students who perfected their English and dreamed of attending American universities now are joining Iraqi nationalist factions and, in some cases, resistance groups that attack U.S. soldiers. They are boning up on the pan-Arabist teachings of Egypt's socialist former president, Gamal Abdel Nasser, and are spraying Baghdad walls with graffiti that reads "Go wage jihad!" and "Down with Bush!"

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/atlanta_world/0903/13iraqyouth.html?urac=n&urvf=10635056527250.6610242706991206

almarst2003 - 10:36pm Sep 13, 2003 EST (# 13647 of 13655)

Dramatic new evidence from the intelligence services casts fresh doubts over Tony Blair's central claim that Iraq continued to produce chemical and biological weapons until the outbreak of war, The Observer can reveal.

Newly disclosed Cabinet Office documents show that the Prime Minister's categorical assertion was based only on a single source and was attacked as 'too strong' by a senior intelligence official. The same official attacks the dossier's descriptions of the graphic effects of mustard gas and VX, a nerve agent, as 'grossly misleading'.

The production claim, which remained in the dossier despite warnings from experts, was repeated in Blair's foreword to the dossier and, more crucially, in the key Commons debate on 24 September last year after the dossier was published.

He told Parliament: '[The dossier] concludes that Iraq has chemical and biological weapons [and] that Saddam has continued to produce them.'

Single-source claims are not usually considered reliable by the intelligence services and have become notorious since the death of Ministry of Defence scientist Dr David Kelly focused attention on the uncorroborated claim that Saddam could deploy his weapons of mass destruction within 45 minutes.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/kelly/story/0,13747,1041828,00.html

almarst2003 - 10:43pm Sep 13, 2003 EST (# 13648 of 13655)

The true scale of American casualties in Iraq is revealed today by new figures obtained by The Observer, which show that more than 6,000 American servicemen have been evacuated for medical reasons since the beginning of the war, including more than 1,500 American soldiers who have been wounded, many seriously. - http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1041722,00.html

THE OIL IS PRICIER THOSE DAYS.

almarst2003 - 11:15pm Sep 13, 2003 EST (# 13649 of 13655)

A book cataloguing the right-wing bias in broadcasts by Rupert Murdoch's US cable television news network, Fox News, has topped the American bestseller lists, weeks after lawyers acting for the company tried to stop it being published. - http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1041654,00.html

WHO COULD IMAGINE THE RED-BLOODED FOX IS SUCH A ... FAUX?

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