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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:56pm Sep 5, 2003 EST (# 13535 of 13539)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

#28 of Detail and the Golden rule http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/DetailNGR.htm sets out links that can be verified, keystroke for keystoke, by the Guardian Observer .

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rshowalter - 03:51pm Jul 7, 2002 BST (#28 of 41)

wildem21 - 04:23pm May 28, 2001 BST (#30 of 41) THE GOLDEN RULE is, was, and ever shall be:

The one with the gold makes the rules.

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willjusa - 04:41pm May 28, 2001 BST (#31 of 41)

Or its corollary: Those with the guns make the rules. Or as Capone put it: "You can get a lot further with a kind word and a gun then you can with a kind word alone."

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wildem21 - 05:03pm May 28, 2001 BST (#32 of 41)

Al and Mao.

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willjusa - 09:28pm May 28, 2001 BST (#33 of 41)

Mao Capone ? I didn't know Al had a brother named Mao. An interersting pair of bookends, though. Neither worth writing home about.

-- (end excerpt from Detail and the Golden rule http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/DetailNGR.htm - - - - - - - -

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Now, I have no way of knowing if willjusa was an important personage.

I do feel that willjusa wanted to guide the reader's guessing when he posted under than moniker.

Is gisterme - GWB , or close to Bush?

I don't know. But (s)he's made efforts to guide guessing toward that idea. http://www.mrshowalter.net/PostsBy_Gisterme.htm

Detail and the Golden rule http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/DetailNGR.htm has some interesting links to this thread - that refer to the CIA - and is interesting in some other ways.

A lot has happened since September 10th, 2001 when I first posted most of Detail and the Golden rule http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/DetailNGR.htm

I continue to believe that a lot could get clarified - and that things would be better and safer, if leaders insisted on finding out who gisterme is.

I think Assessing Watergate 30 Years Later By RICHARD REEVES http://www.mrshowalter.net/Assessing%20Watergate%2030%20Years%20Later.htm bears reading. In terms of issues that were not assessed - but need to be.

wrcooper - 09:41pm Sep 5, 2003 EST (# 13536 of 13539)

Showalter

If leaders insisted on finding out who gisterme is?

Do you have any idea how crazy this sounds? I mean, really.

Bob, I have a suggestion.

To support your contention that gisterme is an important somebody, you provide a link to a bunch of his posts. I recommend, just for fun, that you select from those posts two or three quotes to copy and post separately in the forum. Choose the quotes that you think are the most revealing, the most suspicious, the most convincing, from your point of view. Show us the actual words, verbatim, that gisterme wrote that say to you, "Hmm. Reading this makes me think that gisterme is Bush or someone close to him."

I don't have time to scour all of gisterme's posts, and I have no idea what words ring out in your mind with the message, "This is Bush speaking or someone near to him."

It would be helpful to me--and perhaps to others--to understand why you think gisterme is a big poobah.

Thanks.

fredmoore - 06:02am Sep 6, 2003 EST (# 13537 of 13539)

Rshowski,

Vladmir here...

I just cannot stay quiet. You are razzing me up with this Gisterme nonsense. Everybody in Soviet Union knows Bbbuck is Bush. And guess who Kiki the Komodo is? Yes you silly Amerikanski its Condy Rice.

Now I am all razzed up you will have to call me Razputin ... OKski.

Outski.

jorian319 - 09:48am Sep 6, 2003 EST (# 13538 of 13539)

Gisterme -

Come on, now! We need someone to be the important person who's ear it is so important for Robert to have. Else he'll keep boring us with the details of the "case" for your importance. Your importance is obviously far too important to Robert for him to let it go. Wouldn't it be easier to simply cop to some kind of overarching importance than to keep arguing with someone clinging to an a priori conclusion?

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