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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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fredmoore - 09:23pm Sep 1, 2003 EST (# 13466 of 13470)

Rshow,

One thing stands out afar from your last 5 posts:

""It is from an undelivered speech by Franklin D. Roosevelt, written shortly before his death.

" Today, we are faced with the pre-eminent fact that, if civilization is to survive, we must cultivate the science of human relationships --- the ability of all peoples, of all kinds, to live together and work together in the same world, at peace. " ""

Roosevelt was right of course but the mechanism by which seemingly normal human beings can turn into monsters ... as highlighted at the Nuremburg trials ... were not understood by Roosevelt. He would have been just as perplexed and troubled as the judges were at those trials (had he lived) because the concept of the LASER and in particular the Human or Population Laser was not fully developed or widely disseminated at that time.

Human Laser:

Human populations can be pumped and their subsequent thoughts can create stimulated emission of thoughts in the Jungian subconscious of their surrounding peoples. When this occurs the social output is COHERENT and as we have come to see in the anals of history ... highly unpredictable but effective and dangerous.

For those who don't believe this, the fact remains that at every catastrophic juncture in human history we are all of us left wondering why people stooped to their evil deeds with such relish and efficiency. This cycle of evil and ensuing perplexity is not 'over' and it will never be understood until we look into the nature of the smaller subset of 'crowd violence' and see how Physics and not just human nature is the greater causal factor.

almarst2002 - 11:07am Sep 2, 2003 EST (# 13467 of 13470)

Psychologist Oliver James analyses the behaviour of the American president - http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1033904,00.html

... The outcome of this childhood was what psychologists call an authoritarian personality. ... Authoritarian personalities are organised around rabid hostility to "legitimate" targets, often ones nominated by their parents' prejudices. Intensely moralistic, they direct it towards despised social groups. As people, they avoid introspection or loving displays, preferring toughness and cynicism. They regard others with suspicion, attributing ulterior motives to the most innocent behaviour. They are liable to be superstitious. All these traits have been described in Bush many times, by friends or colleagues.

WHAT BERLE WOULD SAY?

almarst2002 - 11:25am Sep 2, 2003 EST (# 13468 of 13470)

BAGHDAD, Sept. 1 -- Iraq's newly appointed interior minister will recruit a paramilitary force composed of former Iraqi army special forces troops to pursue guerrillas, terrorists and saboteurs who are undermining the country's stability, officials said today. - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11462-2003Sep1.html

The so-called Civil Defense Battalions are to come under the command of the Interior Ministry, which will operate under the tutelage of U.S. occupation authorities.

Perhaps most controversially, the ministry will include a domestic intelligence-gathering section. Iraqi and U.S. occupation officials have already begun to recruit former intelligence officers from Saddam Hussein's government, as well as exiled veterans of his security services, to monitor suspected subversives.

"This will be interesting," said Siyamend Othman, an Iraqi political analyst. "We will have Baathists chasing Baathists."

A NATION BUILDING IN A FULL SWING...

almarst2002 - 01:51pm Sep 2, 2003 EST (# 13469 of 13470)

US - go home , powerful Shiite tells 500000 mourners - http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=79033876&p=79x3458z

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