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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 05:42pm Aug 2, 2003 EST (# 13213 of 13267)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Lchic and I are both proud of the accomplishments described and put in context in MD1999 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/2484

I'm also very proud of the contribution that I believe this thread has made to the connotations and denotations of the phrase"connect the dots" - a phrase more common and central language and thought than it used to be.

9238 < http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/10764">rshow55 "Missile Defense" 2/23/03 1:51pm</a>

2346 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/2915 includes this:

I believe that Erica Goode has made a contribution to the culture, and that this thread may have done so. I'm only basing my jugement on statistics, and what I myself have noticed, and may be wrong. But the matter could be checked, pretty readily, by searching the net. It concerns the phrase "connect the dots." -- and whether that phrase has gained in meaning, and frequency, since Erica Goode's Finding Answers In Secret Plots http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/10/weekinreview/10GOOD.html . . which speaks of:

" a basic human urge to connect the dots and form a coherent picture."

The idea that people have contradictions - and deal with them by "secrets, lies and fictions" - some conscious, some not - is one that I feel is essential if we are to get closure in areas where closure has eluded us. That idea, like the idea of "connecting the dots" has been discussed many time on this thread. Here are places where some of that discussion happens:

3006 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/3745

3036 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/3784

3111 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/3885

3155 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/3941

Natale Angier piece: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/4115

We need both long and short statements: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/4168

3507 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/4423

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3655 3658 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/4609

3736 -3739 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/4706

3995-7 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/5029

4052-4054 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/5100

Statistics and logic: 4166-7 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/5255

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4278-9 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/5407

Emergent properties: 4365-66 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/5517

Willful distortions: 5003 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/6310

5178 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/6510

Iraq and sincerity: 5573-4 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/6968

6000 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/7465

7000-7003 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/8521

7019 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/8540

7046-7 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/8569

7188-9 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/8711

7203 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/8726

7312-3 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/8835

7507 7510 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/9033

Repression links: 7803-5 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/9328

Repression - negative comment by gisterme : 7857 7858-60 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/9383

8419-21 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Z9exbJU7wf8.2133256@.f28e622/9945

. . . .

If we had the courage to connect the dots more carefully, and discard notions that "seemed to fit" yet didn't - we'd be a great d

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