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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:07am Jun 29, 2003 EST (# 12738 of 12746)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Stages have different costs. If a permanent solution to the world energy problem was pretty certain after a few hundred thousand bucks, nearly certain after a million or two - and very certain at all technical levels after a billion dollars was spent - but then required a very large investment (fully amortized in a few years) would it be worth doing? And actually doable?

Perhaps the answer is "yes."

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Bh3xbQsflAZ.1092258@.f28e622/13626

I'm working to get a presentation together that might actually motivate action in the real world. Having some fun working out the engineering details. My guess is that, if someone with REAL power wanted this job done - we could be CERTAIN that the job could be done within 12 months of today - have hydrogen on line at significant volume in 3 years - and have as much hydrogen as the market could reasonably absorb within a decade. I'd like to see that done, and am working to try.

I'm assuming that I'll be able to talk to anyone in the world who'll see me, so far as security limitations go.

fredmoore - 11:17am Jun 29, 2003 EST (# 12739 of 12746)

Hydrogen from the equatorial oceans?

I don't know ....

You buy them the books

You send them to Thermodynamics school to learn about entropy and EMERGY.

And what do they do?

They eat all the pages!

http://www.esb.utexas.edu/drnrm/dieofforg/page17.htm

rshow55 - 11:20am Jun 29, 2003 EST (# 12740 of 12746)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Errata: "127 gigawatt/hrs/day" is only 1/1000 of the energy equivalent of 75MBD. I should have written

"127,000 gigawatt/hrs/day"

other numbers above do not change because of this error.

lchic - 11:23am Jun 29, 2003 EST (# 12741 of 12746)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

and that posting now reads ....

lchic - 11:31am Jun 29, 2003 EST (# 12742 of 12746)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

.... meantime back in Iraq ... juggling police|soldiers|police|soldiers

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,987280,00.html

lchic - 11:35am Jun 29, 2003 EST (# 12743 of 12746)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

re - FM#12739..... systems where energy continually inputs ... can't be described as 'closed' ... can they?

|>

    out

robkettenburg03 - 11:40am Jun 29, 2003 EST (# 12744 of 12746)

Ever wonder how much BETTER of a board this would be without lchic's ranting's on it?

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