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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2002 - 10:55am Jun 12, 2003 EST (# 12495 of 12502)

US-Led Operation in Iraq Aims For 'Subersive Elements' - http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=12CA6673-EC40-4D5A-BF45C16486F7059C

"Subersive Elements" ... or "freedom fighters" ?

almarst2002 - 11:04am Jun 12, 2003 EST (# 12496 of 12502)

White House Silenced Experts Who Questioned Iraq Intel Six Months Before War - http://www.antiwar.com/orig/leopold6.html

Six months before the United States was dead-set on invading Iraq to rid the country of its alleged weapons of mass destruction, experts in the field of nuclear science warned officials in the Bush administration that intelligence reports showing Iraq was stockpiling chemical and biological weapons was unreliable and that the country did not pose an imminent threat to its neighbors in the Middle East or the U.S.

But the dissenters were told to keep quiet by high-level administration officials in the White House because the Bush administration had already decided that military force would be used to overthrow the regime of Iraq's President Saddam Hussein, interviews and documents have revealed.

The most vocal opponent to intelligence information supplied by the CIA to the hawks in the Bush administration about the so-called Iraqi threat to national security was David Albright, a former United Nations weapons inspector and the president and founder of the Institute for Science and International Security, a Washington, D.C. based group that gathers information for the public and the White House on nuclear weapons programs.

almarst2002 - 11:07am Jun 12, 2003 EST (# 12497 of 12502)

War isn't nation building; it’s nation destroying. It vanquishes both the defeated and the defeating power because it chokes off the liberty that is the source of civilization. The lie is the father of war: the lie that because the state smashes and kills, the killers and smashers are mystically protected against the demands of justice; the lie that the war is moral and right because their state is diabolical and ours is angelic; the lie that the opposing government is an imminent threat that must be smashed, whereas, as Justin Raimondo points out, "in retrospect, the events that have impelled us to war have turned out, in every case, to be elaborate hoaxes." - http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/war-revisionism.html

rshow55 - 11:37am Jun 12, 2003 EST (# 12498 of 12502)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

At the end of August of last year, I didn't answer a serious question as well as I wanted to - because I did not feel, subject to promises that I had made, that I could mention my relationship with Eisenhower. The question was carefully phrased:

" rshowalter: Would you mind satisfying my idle curiousity? What are you actually doing with the NewYorkTimes Missile Defence thread?"

3900 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101712@.f28e622/4909

3901 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101712@.f28e622/4910

3902 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101712@.f28e622/4911

3903 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101712@.f28e622/4913

3904 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101712@.f28e622/4914 was by bbbuck , who is usually not an advocate of mine - and I was glad to get his comment about 3900-3903

"Well as they say in the army, 'it doesn't get any better than this'. Carry on sir, the crazy truck must have missed you this week. Maybe next week."

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