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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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fredmoore - 07:52pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12491 of 12502)

Robert,

You say: "But in addition to a loss of agreement - there have been big disappointments. We haven't had the increases in productivity, year after year - needed to fund the social benefits the country has wanted - and promised. That's because our country, and the world, have not done nearly as well as they technically could have in getting sustained, solid economic growth. The Europeans are in and even bigger mess about the funding of social services for the same reason. "

Oh great ... 12000+ posts and you finally get around to it .... increased economic growth requires (implicit) a corresponding increase in population. And when the economic system turns 'non-linear' because of resource shortages, I suppose you will come up with a Stalin equivalent to discard the excess numbers of people. Well .... your grand plan ... it certainly WORKS .... that's been seen to be true.

Jorian ...

"All 12,000+ posts in this forum are the same two hundred posts, being recycled again and again. Nobody has noticed, nor will they, since the only people who read them are the ones who write them. "

Is that you Pugsley???

rshow55 - 08:45pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12492 of 12502)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

There are no significant resource shortages - when human needs are considered - if good technical solutions were found. They are available, and technically, they aren't even hard. Socially they are hard. But if I had my security clearance problems cleaned up - in ways that actually counted - they could be solved within a capitalistic format.

Fredmoore , your last posting isn't nearly up to the standard of your 9425 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101690@.f28e622/10965

or gisterme's fine piece of writing titled "The Talking Dog" at 10:05pm Jan 17, 2003 EST (# 7768 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101690@.f28e622/9293 cited at 12049 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101690@.f28e622/13676

12295 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101690@.f28e622/13943 cites a professional piece of work

In response to my statement that I'd set out to talk to people - in ways I'm honor-bound to do - carefully submitting to prior-restraint censorship - as best I can arrange it so that no reasonably classified information would be revealed, the response is

. http://check-this-you-mother/komodos-are-pretty.com

A reasonable interpretation of http://check-this-you-mother/komodos-are-pretty.com , which connects to nada, nothingness - is "we'll kill you if you do that."

Such responses are inhibiting.

But it seems to me that there has been progress, and 12477 bears repeating. And http://www.mrshowalter.net/LtToSenateStffrWSulzbergerNoteXd.html bears reading. Not only in the US - but elsewhere.

12205 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@11101@.f28e622/13843

Note: If I has a clear, true "cast of characters" for this thread - and clearance to talk clearly to people at the UN and to organizations such as Deutsche Bank Securities - I'd have a fair shot at accomplishing everything I promised Eisenhower I'd "do my damndest" to do.

12206 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101690@.f28e622/13844

12207 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4QS9bSehe9p.101690@.f28e622/13845

For some thoughts pertaining to Status Quo . . . Initial Problem . . . Exposition . . . and Complications . may I suggest the Farewell Address of Dwight D. Eisenhower? http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm

The things Eisenhower warned against have happened - he watched some of them happening after he left to Presidency. We need to deal effectively with what has happened, in practically and humanly effective ways that we can all be proud of.

That's possible from where we are now.

jorian319 - 10:31pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12493 of 12502)

Is that you Pugsley???

No, but it looks vaguely familiar... hmmm.

:-)

lchic - 09:36am Jun 12, 2003 EST (# 12494 of 12502)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

If tax relates to services

    and services to tax
    the services of Jorian deserve a sharp clean axe

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