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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 03:38pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12480 of 12490)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

What's in a name?

http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/ap06-11-120838.asp?reg=EUROPE

The New York Times declined to comment Wednesday on a published report it may change the name of the International Herald Tribune. The Figaro newspaper reported that the Herald Tribune's name may become the New York Times International.

rshow55 - 04:05pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12481 of 12490)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

From a branding point of view - that change sure looks reasonable. It might well raise the status of the International Herald Tribune - and perhaps also the status of The New York Times .

rshow55 - 04:17pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12482 of 12490)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I'm working on things Eisenhower asked me to do, at our first meeting - that should interest leaders and readers today - things connected to the work of C.P. Snow.

I took a break from that to repost postings from Science in the News on Aug 29, 2000 - a few days before I drove to Washington, expecting to have a useful meeting with a NYT reporter.

I think Eisenhower would have agreed with what I wrote there - he thought a lot about what the Nazis did, and about military training in general. He wanted to make our military training more effective in the ways that count for the national interest.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/ScienceNNews_1422__27.html includes this:

Military education, and much professional education, including scientific education, is a primate business done carefully and skillfully by primates, in coordinated groups, who know what they are doing.

I feel the experiments Goode discusses make more sense, and fit as evidence against the Nazis more clearly, if one knows what military training is. It is not all about human freedom, or all about independence, or all about courage. It is carefully, thoughtfully adapted to people who are, to put it gently, "a little lower than the angels."

Military training patterns are administered by people who know just what they're doing, and think about it carefully and in detail. They must do so to act as effectively as they do. Populations with competent militaries know everything they have to know in order to support what is done. This goes emphatically for the German military (all of it) the German bureacracies (all of them) and the German people (just about everybody) during the Nazi era.

The ignorance defense so many Germans claim, in the fuzzy way in which they claim it, makes no logical or emotional sense to me. To the degree that people were responsible members of German society during this time, they needed to know enough for the complex cooperation, and focused and mutual coercion, that they actually showed. (That is, everybody had to know practically everything, except for details of execution.)

Scientific evidence, combined with other evidence and persuasive work, may in the future help establish this truth, which has been, somehow, too weak, on a firmer basis than has been done so far.

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Scientific evidence - and a clear sense of how our institutions work (and how our simulations can now work) can make us safer, more decent - and richer.

lchic - 04:19pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12483 of 12490)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The old Gray Lady's been

singing the blues

She's nothing to loose!

jorian319 - 05:37pm Jun 11, 2003 EST (# 12484 of 12490)

I have new theory:

All 12,000+ posts in this forum are the same two hundred posts, being recycled again and again. Nobody has noticed, nor will they, since the only people who read them are the ones who write them.

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