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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 03:29pm Jun 10, 2003 EST (# 12450 of 12474)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

You're more enthusiastic than I am - but I liked this sentence:

If total freedom and total regulation are both undesirable, is there any middle path that is preferable and plausible?

I was commandeered - and expected and trained to commandeer resources, on my own authorization - when it mattered enough. Eisenhower talked pretty carefully about that - and he emphasised some things from C.P. Snow's Science and Government - that I want to talk about - in ways that are useful, and do no damage. (Snow had been in charge of selecting personnel for scientific research for Great Britian during WWII - and influenced both Eisenhowers, and many others.)

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary?define=commandeer&Submit1=Search

1. (Mil.) To compel to perform military service; to seize for military purposes;

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/thesaurus?thesaurit=commandeer&Submit1=Search

commandeer

accroach, annex, appropriate, arrogate, assume, attach, call up collectivize, communalize, communize, confiscate, conscript detach, detach for service, distrain, draft, enlist, enroll expropriate, garnish, impound, impress, induct, join, levy, list mobilize, muster, muster in, nationalize, preempt, press, raise recruit, replevin, replevy, seize, sequester, sequestrate, sign on sign up, socialize, summon, take, usurp

In a military context, it is absolutely necessary and expected that some commandeering will be required - but for good reasons.

I've been "commandeering" as I was instructed to do, and promised to do - but I've tried not to usurp .

Usurp \U*surp"\, v. i. To commit forcible seizure of place, power, functions, or the like, without right; to commit unjust encroachments; to be, or act as, a usurper.

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/thesaurus?thesaurit=usurp&Submit1=Search

usurp accroach, adopt, advance upon, appropriate, arrogate, assume assume command, break bounds, colonize, commandeer, conquer cut out, displace, encroach, enslave, go too far, hog, indent infringe, intrude, invade, irrupt, jump a claim, know no bounds make an inroad, make free with, make use of, monopolize mount the throne, occupy, overrun, overstep, overstep the bounds play God, preempt, preoccupy, prepossess, pretend to, requisition seize, seize power, seize the throne, sit on, squat on, subjugate take all of, take charge, take command, take it all, take over take possession of, take the helm, take the lead, take up transgress, trespass

That's a significant distinction

People at the NYT, and on this thread have sometimes felt that I was somehow a mutant - somehow inhuman - somehow a freak - somehow graceless - very impolite - somehow pathological and/or crazy and/or criminal and/or a sociopath - and with some reason, according to assumptions they've made.

If a person believes me about my relationship with Eisenhower - I look like a fairly competent, honorable human being - and this thread looks better. Maybe enough better to effect some action. So the stakes are high for me - and connect to a great deal I've devoted my life to. I'm being careful.

My own view is that I've been an honorable guy, and have done things that "the average reader of The New York Times" would understand, and mostly respect. I also think this thread deals with serious issues. So I'm taking some time to be careful.

Have I had the right to commandeer resources from The New York Times? I've thought so - and perhaps some others have thought so, too. I'd like to explain why - in ways entirely consistent with the national interest - and believe that I can.

almarst2002 - 03:37pm Jun 10, 2003 EST (# 12451 of 12474)

How U.S. Armed and Aided Radical Islamic Groups in Bosnia - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/4-2.html#Secrets of Srebrenica Revealed…

almarst2002 - 03:47pm Jun 10, 2003 EST (# 12452 of 12474)

Pakistani relives Guantanamo ordeal - "I was given injections at least four or five times as well as different tablets" - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3051501.stm

lchic - 04:51pm Jun 10, 2003 EST (# 12453 of 12474)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Gray Lady http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0324/schanberg.php

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