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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:35am May 31, 2003 EST (# 12256 of 12265)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Fredmoore's reference to The Postman Always Rings Twice is a charming play on words. And, along with other things, has set tme to thinking about the analogies between myself and Mimi Fahnestock.

(In a manner of speaking - - we both got f*cked over - and yet, from time to time - were proud of what we were involved with, and really enjoyed it.)

So far as I can tell, Ms. Fahnestock is an etirely admirable matron. And has made no efforts to "tell her story." For instance, on the lecture circuit, in books, or to any other audience where people happened to be interested.

But, according to American usages, she could. ( It might not be "good taste" - though it might be - but in all events, not all American doings are the height of decorum and good taste. )

She could tell her story. But she'd have no "paperwork" - no "independent corraboration" of more than a very few details. It would be impossible to tell whether the things she might say that were either moving or interesting were fact or fiction, or a mixture.

Could I tell my story? Without restriction?

I have no way of knowing whether the CIA has a lot of paperwork on me - or none that they can find - but I am sure I don't have access to paperwork to collaborate some key parts of my "story" - almost all of which has been set out on this thread by now, in a fragmentary fashion.

It seems to me to be an interesting question.

rshow55 - 09:39am May 31, 2003 EST (# 12257 of 12265)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

In my case, there are some clear connections to missile defense - and also to key questions from lchic 2213 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.4TBhbfnhcGd.0@.f28e622/13851 - including the question:

So where do the leaps in growth next come from ... did Eisenhower have visions of a 'providing future' ?

Could I give the "briefing" I would have liked to have given Eisenhower (or Clinton, or Bush) in public - to anybody who happened to be interested, now?

It seems to me that I'm not so far from that.

One group of people I'd like to brief are senior germans at Deutsche Bank Securities.

Another includes senior germans at Daimler-Chrysler. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/31/business/31AUTO.html

Both because I'd like to actually do some things Eisenhower wanted done - that I've spent my life learning how to do.

Maybe I could "brief" some folks in the State Depertment, or DOD. Separately.

. What Rift? Top Aides Deny State Dept.-Pentagon Chasm By STEVEN R. WEISMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/31/politics/31DIPL.html

Maybe some politicians, lawyers and interested citizens, too. The GOP of Eisenhower's administration was conservative in ways that seem almost forgotten -

. How the G.O.P. Created Affirmative Action By JACK BASS http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/31/opinion/31BASS.html

Anyway, I'm spending some time talking to my wife, and thinking about what I might do. Like the Sulzbergers, and folks who read the royal family's flagship paper, my wife's not averse to thinking about forbidden lust, love triangles, brutal, raw sexiness, and adultery-motivated actions. But she has other priorities, too. So do I.

bbbuck - 11:49am May 31, 2003 EST (# 12258 of 12265)

Anyway, I'm spending some time talking to my wife, and thinking about what I might do. Like the Sulzbergers, and folks who read the royal family's flagship paper, my wife's not averse to thinking about forbidden lust, love triangles, brutal, raw sexiness, and adultery-motivated actions. But she has other priorities, too. So do I.

I think this guy may be plagiarizing romance-detective novels. Try setting the mode to detective-romance-covert-ops and see what that produces.

robkettenburg03 - 01:54pm May 31, 2003 EST (# 12259 of 12265)

rshow55:

You can tell your story as long as you don't reveal classified information, to the best of my knowledge. I had a top secret security clearance back in the 80's and they were ADAMANT about what would happen if anyone writes or talks about any of the classified material they're exposed to - JAIL TIME!

jorian319 - 05:25pm May 31, 2003 EST (# 12260 of 12265)

Rottenburger must not be grounded this weekend... the only time he can post without getting immediately deleted by sysop... poor baby.

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