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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:36am May 27, 2003 EST (# 12075 of 12132)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

It seems to me that if people do their duty - as lchic and I try to do - a lot of good could come of it, reasonably gracefully. If only almarst was Putin, or knew Putin. Putin could help. Leaders from the EU could, as well.

I think all the poems here are of more than historical interest -

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee74d94/2313 - they start:

You're not dead yet

Inaugural Theme Song

Lay Your Sleeping Head, My Love

I fell in passionate partner-love in the line of duty, . . With a lady doing her duty too.

The pseudonyms correspond to people who know who they are - and made only small secrets about their identity.

Lchic and I are doing our duty still. And if some others would do their duty - the world would be a safer, more prosperous place. In ways old "boy scouts" like the Eisenhowers and Casey would have approved of.

jorian319 - 02:58pm May 27, 2003 EST (# 12076 of 12132)

Robert, settle down! I was being facetious!

Sheee - hitt! I have worried about such things for approximately a millisecond total. The day some agency (that I help fund through taxes) has time to come take me away, I can take solace in the fact that the usgov has degraded to a point where this is not anywhere I could be free anyhow.

I really think there are one or two things in the heirarchy of priorites of every single governmental entity - from individuals to agencies - that would take precedence over shutting me up. And I think that goes for you, and for lchick too.

jorian319 - 02:58pm May 27, 2003 EST (# 12077 of 12132)

On second thought... they might come get lchick just for being deliberately confusing.

jorian319 - 02:59pm May 27, 2003 EST (# 12078 of 12132)

Oh! - disclaimer - just kidding, again.

rshow55 - 03:48pm May 27, 2003 EST (# 12079 of 12132)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

In 1952, when General of the Army Dwight David Eisenhower ran for president (he hadn't cared much whether he ran as a Democrat or a Republican) he had clear objectives.

He wanted to combine the high achievements in administration and technocratic management that the US had up and running - with democracy and American ideals - in the service of a common good the country agreed on.

He wanted to diffuse the high achievements in administration and technocratic management that the US had up and running, in the service of world welfare, world prosperity, and world peace, and to meet the competition of totalitarian systems.

Eisenhower had good reasons to think these objectives reasonable ones - and good reasons to believe that he was the best man available, by a large margin, to achieve them. There probably never was a man with wider, more intense, or more successful experience in administration and technocratic management of large systems than D.D. Eisenhower. Neither his selection nor his successes had happened by accident.

Eisenhower's presidency was a very frustrating one, though he achieved a lot. The main sources of frustration, and deep concern for the country that he had that I heard about were technical. They motivated me very thoroughly. Eisenhower didn't see how the world was going to go decently unless some problems that had stumped him were solved. He wasn't even sure that mankind would survive.

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