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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 10:19am May 25, 2003 EST (# 11979 of 11992)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

``The CIA can't permit any unauthorized communications within its own computer systems. It's just intolerable.''

http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2000/12/fo120100.html

Raises the point is 'The Poster' authorised by the agency ...

Is the NYT 'happy' to have 'moles' burrowing around its forums?

jorian319 - 10:21am May 25, 2003 EST (# 11980 of 11992)

Raises the point is 'The Poster' authorised by the agency ...

Was that a question? Or an answer? Being "The Poster", you 3 would be the one to know.

lchic - 10:24am May 25, 2003 EST (# 11981 of 11992)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

CIA - The World Factbook 2002 - Map

Interesting that anyone who pulls down such a Map takes onboard a cookie from the CIA

lchic - 10:27am May 25, 2003 EST (# 11982 of 11992)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

"" As in any workplace, people there apparently have the same human tendencies to gossip, gripe and goof off.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2000/12/fo120100.html

Certainly puts 'The Poster' into the CIA basket!

rshow55 - 10:42am May 25, 2003 EST (# 11983 of 11992)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Search "Dickens"

Search "Eisenhower"

Just look back at lchic postings - a lot of good stuff.

Whose Language Is It Anyway? By STEPHEN S. PICKERING http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/25/opinion/25SUN3.html makes a good point - that I've worried about - about the degeneracy of language - even the "q-mechanic" like internal contradictions.

For example, as Pickering describes is "I could care less" means both - what it says - and the opposite.

It is an example, and there are others - of an oscillatory state - where people are dealing with contradictory situaations - something built into the logic of the world, and our neurology.

Lchic has asked me to set out a blow by blow of my experiences - and it seems a good idea - but a bad one at the same time. Part of the problem has to do with figuring out what happened. I recall the very good-bad advice from Robert Frost:

Never ask of money spent.

Where the spender thinks it went.

Nobody was ever meant

To remember or invent

What they did with every cent.

You can't account for everything - even when you "must."

11918 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.AZ2nbOS2apJ.1795930@.f28e622/13543 A serious question - a matter of life and death - is finding workable ways to get to workable, true-enough closures - when it matters enough.

People ought to be stumped a lot of the time. Still, it would be nice to be stumped less often.

Eisenhower was stumped. Kennedy, and presidents since - have "gotten the country moving again" - often in stupid, disastrous, chaotic, unsatisfactory ways. The things that Eisenhower worried abour remain key problems. But there was one that Eisenhower never faced quite as honestly as he needed to - and nobody has since.

Is it really necessary for the President of the United States to govern using the theatrical techniques of Professor James Hill of The Music Man ?

jorian319 - 10:42am May 25, 2003 EST (# 11984 of 11992)

Was that a "yes"?

jorian319 - 10:43am May 25, 2003 EST (# 11985 of 11992)

Has anyone ever seen Rshow and lchick in the same place at the same time?

woooo - woooo!

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