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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 06:14pm May 19, 2003 EST (# 11807 of 11812)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.C0Q6acNGan7.633699@.f28e622/13418

I'm trying to do my duty as I see it. I'm not necessarily "shy and retiring" - and wasn't when I was 18, but I was "swept by the tide of war in to a position undreamt of."

I've been doing my best since.

Like Lawrence, I've had some heady experiences -and some rought times, too.

Just now I'm hestitating - not quite stumped - but close - and worried about what to do.

I'm no more a pacifist, or a docrinaire "bleeding heart liberal" than Dwight or Milton Eisenhower was - or than Casey was. But like them, I believe that a mixed, planned response is necessary for some important things.

If I have answers that "the United States doesn't want anymore" - can I set them out in public - and work to sell those answers to other nations (such as Germany, France, or Russia) who need those answers - and don't reject them as the US now does?

The Democratic Party should want these answers. In a sane world, the Bush administration should, too.

11759-62 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.C0Q6acNGan7.633699@.f28e622/13371

I'm wondering about the legalities of what ought to be a very simple question. Could I talk to - make presentations to - work with Deutsh Bank Securities (a very well placed organization, from my point of view) or talk to other organizations - or people in the United Nations - if the US won't work with me?

lchic - 09:08pm May 19, 2003 EST (# 11808 of 11812)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Showalter i noted the word 'people'

People are the 'ants' of society.

    People like to have place and postition and work to order knowing that the fruits of their toil will produce a better world.
I used the word 'work'

People are the 'worker-ants' of society.

    People like to have place and postition and work to order knowing that the fruits of their toil will produce a better world.
People need futures and a sense of purpose.

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What is 'work'?

It can be a purposefulness, sometimes it's paid.

Work is something governments worry over quite a lot.

In the advanced world unemployment runs at 6% ... probably 20% as the figure for 'umemploy' only measures the desperate end of the problem.

In China 80% of people are still 'on the land' ... showing an unemployment figure of 70%.

So there is a need to recognise 'work' and enable 'work' so that folks make money ... then spend it ... enabling others to work.

lchic - 09:13pm May 19, 2003 EST (# 11809 of 11812)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

JOB CREATION

is the currency that politicians understand.

Any invention, innovation, process, project, scheme, should be expressed in terms of potential jobs.

The USA - by deduction isn't interested in job cration

    If I have answers that "the United States doesn't want anymore" - can I set them out in public - and work to sell those answers to other nations (such as Germany, France, or Russia) who need those answers - and don't reject them as the US now does? (Showalter)

lchic - 09:22pm May 19, 2003 EST (# 11810 of 11812)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Job creation | distruction - BANK

"" On average, close to one out of ten manufacturing jobs disappears in a given year, while the rate of new job creation is slightly lower.

"" National labor market conditions are a central concern for both economists and policymakers. Traditionally, macroeconomists have not paid attention to patterns of job creation and job destruction but have tried to understand the labor market in terms of the behavior of economy-wide aggregates, such as interest rates or aggregate wage levels. However, in recent years, macroeconomists have begun to pay more attention to developments at the micro level. In this Letter we discuss some recent work by a group of economists who study plant level employment in order to understand macroeconomic developments.

http://www.frbsf.org/econrsrch/wklyltr/el97-13.html

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As efficiency is built into process - jobs are shed.

If more jobs are lost than created --- then there's a build up of a pool of unemployment

Well luckily for politicians the unemployed often don't turn up at the ballot box to express their viewpoint -- especially when propaganda uses them as scapegoats ... rather than looking to the need to create NEW INDUSTRIES so that people can have jobs.

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