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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 06:00pm May 14, 2003 EST (# 11660 of 11713)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Maybe I'm a bit of a weakling, but I'm also in a position with certain vulnerabilities, and I've been looking at the Feb 24 edition of Newsweek - which has ANXIETY AND YOUR BRAIN: How Living With Fear Affects the Mind and Body by Geoffrey Cowley as its cover story.

There's another interesting piece in that Newsweek.

The Hard Times in Silicon Valley , an interview by Brad Stone of Vinod Khosla of Kleiner Perkins.

It has some quotes involved with issued of concern to Casey (and Dwight and Milton Eisenhower, and many other people.

. Stone: You've said the VC industry is driven by greed and fear. Where are we now.

. Khosla: The capital allocation system in this country is driven by those two emotions. Its a little bit like democracy. There's lots of things wrong with it, but there isn't a better system . When an investment area becomes attractive, everybody rushes into it. So you get overinvestment. . . .

Casey wanted to find modifications, that were rational, controllable, and fitting, that could make a better system. So did Eisehower and a lot of other people who knew what had worked in WWII.

They didn't regard that as unamerican.

lchic - 08:08pm May 14, 2003 EST (# 11661 of 11713)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

``The system didn't work in this particular case.''

``When we speak to old-timers -- flight engineers, flight directors and astronauts -- ... they all say:

    'this is a test vehicle, of course you want pictures, just so you know. And all the rest of this stuff is just bureaucratic fumbling and bumbling',''
``It was a judgment call, it was clearly a wrong judgment call.''

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/national/news-space-shuttle.html

lchic - 08:16pm May 14, 2003 EST (# 11662 of 11713)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

`The truth will set you free?' " he* says.

* A college reporter student who said he had - but didn't - a higher degree

Mr. Elliott found himself at a fork in the road between the Christian way and the way of a newspaperman, and chose newspaperman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/14/education/14STUD.html

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Shows this Employer didn't ask to see and verify the higher-degree.

Didn't check!

Did the NYT emphasis this point?

lchic - 08:26pm May 14, 2003 EST (# 11663 of 11713)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

What changes

Take a photograph - most photographs shout out - their cultural period!

An old film was recently thrown in with a batch for development ... it came back ... along with suggestions re light --- it was a town i once lived in - traffic and streets.

What hit me was the 'shape' and 'design' of transportation.

The material world is date-stamped!

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So too thinking.

And yet so many folks are allowed - or don't buy into current conventions.

How many would want to 'use' the material goods of 2000 years ago, 1400 years ago, a thousand years ago, five hundred years ago, two hundred, one hundred, fifty?

Materially people want the best, the latest, the up-to-date.

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So how is it that ancient mindframes abound?

How is it that up-to-the-moment decisions are enacted hourly in minds that haven't up-dated?

How do folks know what to keep of the old, what to jettison, what to use of the new?

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Looking to the world of 'terror' ... so much of the thinking is out-dated --- so why do those limited mindsets persist. How can a man in the modern era begin to suppose that he knows what was truth way back on a different history page - a page he can only 'imagine' and yet never have been a part of?

How dare he 'presume'?

Who assists him to 'presume'?

Who councils him against presumption?

lchic - 08:30pm May 14, 2003 EST (# 11664 of 11713)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Does the world have to wait until the indoctrinated terrorists die?

Or

Are there cultural ways and means of moving these men back into reality.

Culturally what moves thinking along, what rights it, what mellows it, what are the factors?

One factor may be comedy and satire.

Were the media that beams into the zones of quasi-medieval-thought to take up the issues above, to look at and question the 'power' politics of religions, of the spoilt_rich, of the men who never put themselves in danger yet encourage others ... through comedy and examination ... leading to thought provoking discussion

could the mindsets of murder be mellowed and changed?

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