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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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jorian319 - 04:22pm May 13, 2003 EST (# 11628 of 11636)

Thanks for posting the excerpt.

Come to think of it, I'd rather be in Singsing for 5-to-life than have to look up all those links.

jorian319 - 04:23pm May 13, 2003 EST (# 11629 of 11636)

Rshow, that would be an inferred threat (if any).

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not really after you!

lchic - 08:09pm May 13, 2003 EST (# 11630 of 11636)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Jorian quote:

    'I'd rather be in Singsing for 5-to-life than have to look up all those links.'
Sing Sing - one of America's most infamous prisons
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/NYOSSsing.html

Jorian America still has it's cages - take Guantanamo Bay detention centre in Cuba as an example ... http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/stories/s850760.htm

here the guys who have not been 'charged' with any crime - many just foot soldiers - are kept in small American Cages 2m x2m.8 day in day out .. caged for the past 15 mths.

Twice only per week are they allowed to exercise.

Included in this hell are 3 young boys.

The whole matter is American Military Justice - outside any world laws - outside the Geneva convention according to 'America'.

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American management ran the detention centers in australia for Howard who was making election points through his non-respect for refugees. The children from these American Managed Detention centers are now Australia's most traumatised.

When 'children' are depressed and destroyed from within - and never recover - they are a dollar-burden on Health Services for the rest of their somewhat inadequate lives.

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'What goes around comes around'

a saying that implies an holistic value system.

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Back to keeping people in cages 'outside' world law ....

the question is how long before a foreign nation reciprocates

then what does the USA say

how can lives be saved

guys sent back to their families

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lchic - 12:39am May 14, 2003 EST (# 11631 of 11636)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Kipling believed that easterners and westerners could meet as equals

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/05/13/do1301.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/05/13/ixportal.html

fredmoore - 01:37am May 14, 2003 EST (# 11632 of 11636)

Lchic ...

'here the guys who have not been 'charged' with any crime - many just foot soldiers - are kept in small American Cages 2m x2m.8 day in day out .. caged for the past 15 mths. '

Their masters killed some 3000 New Yorkers who mistakenly thought it was their right to go to work in safety. The ones still incarcerated would have shown a recalcitrance that ought to make you shudder. There is a proper time for everything under heaven but I don't think this is the time to 'turn the other cheek'.

Between being a mindless vigilante and someone with a deathwish, I think that there is a place where it is prudent to hold these 'villains' till the coast is clear (literally).

lchic - 05:40am May 14, 2003 EST (# 11633 of 11636)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Humans kept like 'battery hens'

Problems for both human and military_keepers

It seems those coming off their shifts have to have pep talks each time to enforce the stance of the military.

Fred - dp you have a room in your house that fits the above 2 x 2.8 meters? No. That's okay. Get down to the local hardware for mesh. Now build that structure in your yard. Put a 24hour flood light over your cage - and lock yourself in for a year. Then tell me what you think and feel.

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