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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
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almarst2003
- 10:19pm Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11427 of 11500)
"So what happened, American [troops] took control of
[Al-Rashid] on April 8th. And what residents of this area are
telling us is that since then, Americans started exploding
what [ammunition] was left by Saddam Hussein in this Al-Rashid
camp, which is next door to this area. And the [residents]
were complaining that every day there were a lot of explosions
in this camp, and they were very, very anxious about their
safety and security. And now today, what happened in the early
morning -- around 0600, somebody says; somebody else says
around 0700 local time -- four missiles were launched from
this Al-Rashid camp, which is controlled by Americans and
where the Americans had just confirmed 80 missiles left by
Saddam Hussein were located. So residents say four of these
missiles were launched from this Al-Rashid camp and one of
them hit this Teachers' Neighborhood, and three or four houses
were completely destroyed and another three were partly
destroyed."
Question: The U.S. Army says the ammunition dump was
attacked by what it called "hostile forces," who fired four
flares into the dump. You spoke to a U.S. Army official --
Colonel John Peabody, the commanding officer of the 11th
Engineering Brigade. He repeated that the ammunition dump had
been attacked. What other details did he provide?
Eshanova: "By whom, he couldn't say -- he just said 'by
people who don't like us, who don't like their own people.' So
he said that the stockpile was attacked. But residents say
these explosions are usually made by Americans [purposely], so
there is confusion about what happened exactly. What is the
result is that several houses are completely destroyed, and
locals say the number of casualties is more than 40. Americans
say it's 20, and under the rubble there could be more, and so
the number of casualties will grow, definitely."
Question: Of those numbers, how many are dead and how many
injured?
Eshanova: "The numbers put by locals is 16 confirmed dead
in the hospitals and dozens of injured people. The number put
by the American officer is 20, but he didn't elaborate [how
many dead and how many injured]. But he added that now
American soldiers are working to clean the rubble and there
are definitely more people [buried underneath] and definitely
the number [of casualties] will grow. He said so."
http://rferl.org/nca/features/2003/04/26042003155810.asp
jorian319
- 10:25pm Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11428 of 11500)
Nice to have you back almarst. I see the gloom and doom
business is still producing prodigiously. Are you not worried
that your supply might someday outstrip demand?
lchic
- 10:30pm Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11429 of 11500) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Baring in mind that Iraq has been relieved of a relentless
dictator who derived joy from inflicting real pain and death
on the people of Iraq ...
A question to ask is why don't Iraqi people get on with the
clean-up and return to regular life
Contrast the way the mice kept their quiet with the Tyrant,
with the way they now 'blame' the liberating forces for
everything ---- rather than getting down to post war
improvements
If they've ever seen a movie or tv drama, then they'd know
that reckless firepower is a part of the US culture
If they got themselves into organising themselves rather
than baiting the US they'd move further forward faster
Isn't the first rule to 'respect' soldiers with guns with
real live amnuition ...
Most of these soldiers are kids who are afraid for
themselves --- don't the civillians see that ??
fredmoore
- 12:16am Apr 30, 2003 EST (#
11430 of 11500)
'Most of these soldiers are kids who are afraid for
themselves --- don't the civillians see that ?? '
Now that's diaphanous!
From the get go the coalition needed to use PSi-ops in
civ-mil interactions. All we hear is : "It's not our job ...
we're here to get the bad guys."
Without anyone letting their guard down, there are certain
types of films and music which can bridge the gap between
civilians and the military. This has the advantage of making
the sleeper Bathists stand out like Dog's B*lls. With the
sleepers weeded out the reconstruction can accelerate, ending
the dumb cycle of violence.
Civ-Mil interactions are a dance .... both sides need to
learn the steps.
Now ... who's up for the 'Tommy two-step'?
lchic
- 03:44am Apr 30, 2003 EST (#
11431 of 11500) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Interesting 'paper work' turning up showing how people
'dobbed' each other in to the Bathists ...
Partners, family, friends, social and work connections ...
all reporting in --- afraid that if they didn't they'd be
picked up by the Bathist-Police ...
How to turn a civil state into a nightmare-police state
.... Saddam must have been well tutored!
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