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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
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rshow55
- 10:16am Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11416 of 11500) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
If a deal with the North Koreans included means to open up
information flows - so that N. Koreans are informed about
BASIC facts - then a great deal of aid would be justified. If
the population of N. Korea fully understood the sacrifices
they were making - and the reasons for them - there would be
adjustments.
Why exactly are N. Korean policies justified that result in
children badly stunted by malnutrition - and lives
improverished in many, many ways?
In times past, there were better reasons than now exist.
But there are NO reasons for these sacrifices that can be
honestly explained to the N. Korean population now.
It seems to me that if inspections were real and reliable,
and information flows reasonably open - aid equal to our
costs, direct and indirect, from garrisoning S. Korea would be
a sensible place to start.
One thing ought to be clear. Nuclear weapons are
extermination weapons. They have no sane military use - nor
any sane political use - and especially no sane military use
for a minor power. They convey little or nothing more than a
right to commit mass murder - and then national suicide.
Or, for a radical Islamist group - the "right" to mobilize
resources against their cause far, far in excess of any
mobilized now.
fredmoore
- 10:26am Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11417 of 11500)
North Korea ....
The Mouse That Roared.
That's a real fine Dutchy of Fenwick you've gotten us into
Stanley!
Kim Jong Il a closet Peter Sellers fan?
mazza9
- 12:19pm Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11418 of 11500) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
Commentaries
You can give your wallet to the theif who announces "You
wallet or your life!"
Unfortunately, this has been the source of most pain and
suffering ever since Oog demanded the hind quarter of the
mastadon that Goog had hunted and killed for his family.
Law and order was established. Muggings are supposed to go
away.
Why not advise North Korea that they are to behave and
dismantle their nuclear program or they will recieve more
WB-51s they they would care to absorb!
I say let's offer them the opportunity to behave or regime
change will be conducted. I don't think it'll take 4 weeks to
reduce this paper tiger!
fredmoore
- 03:57pm Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11419 of 11500)
Lou ....
'I say let's offer them the opportunity to behave or regime
change will be conducted. I don't think it'll take 4 weeks to
reduce this paper tiger! '
Nah! It would never get thru the UN. Heaven knows what
deals the French, Germans amd Russians are doing with NK!
But they (NK) don't have OIL .... so .... Who knows?
Cheers
mazza9
- 06:36pm Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11420 of 11500) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
Commentaries
They don't have oil because China turned off the spiggot.
China's advances in Africa are oil related. Their Billion plus
population are growing more sophisticated.
In the long run China will be more interested in their
developing economy and capitalistic perks like computers, cars
and cell phones. Think they give a rat's behind about that
small nuisance on their flank. And China definitely doesn't
want a nuclear Japan on their doorstep.
You stand up to a bully, (like Saddam, Mugabe, Castro et
al), and the world becomes a safer place. Smack 'em in the
chops and see!
lchic
- 09:11pm Apr 29, 2003 EST (#
11421 of 11500) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Getting into MIND DEFENSES
how to climb those solid fences? All power corrupts
Absolutely
What happens to 'minds' as they move towards being
'absolute-minds' ... at what point along the curve of humanity
does respect for others dimish ... why are absolute leaders
happy to live in luxury while the people are hungry?
The inner circle is 'we' is 'us'
The near outer circle 'other' or 'them'
Put concentric cirlces around an 'absolute' ... who are the
'we' and 'other'?
What are the bonds ... what is the glue that sticks ... so
many are shaken-off - 'sacrificed'
What are the mechanisms?
They repeat and repeat and repeat!
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