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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 09:11am Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11291 of 11300)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

"What and Where is Iraq?"

lchic - 10:18am Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11292 of 11300)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Everyone understood

that photo

    of child
of girl

a girl

    your girl ?
    my girl ?
OUR girl !

Truth crystalised through that hot fried burnt

    moment of fear
In an instant

>>>> click <<<<<

The eagle dropped her prey

Losing the war to ' truth '

ti: Phan Thi Kim Phuc

© dR3

----

Phan Thi Kim Phuc

Born: Trang Bang, South Vietnam, 1963

It is a photograph that few are likely to forget. A little girl, her clothes seared from her body by a Napalm bomb, runs screaming from her burning village. Her arms are outstretched in terror and pain.

bbbuck - 02:51pm Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11293 of 11300)

http://www.1stcavmedic.com/napalm_girl.htm

With some comments from a Vietnam photographer, Kim Phuk.

Nick Ut is the credited photographer.

I have seen video of the picture too. Apparently the place was crawling with journalists.

bbbuck - 03:09pm Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11294 of 11300)

Well apparently the girl running naked is Kim Phuc(how do you spell phuk?).

I'm not sure who's doing the answering of the questions. A vietnam journalist, but the site doesn't make it clear, exactly who that is.

Still standard answers to people who use 'shocking' photos to skew things to their viewpoint.

Roll the Aushwitz tape again please.

It does seem to reinforce that pictures can influence our opinion more than logic and words ever could.

lchic - 05:15pm Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11295 of 11300)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

seems to reinforce that pictures can influence our opinion more than logic and words ever could

And yet, on 'seeing' the 'vision' of the 'picture' doesn't a voice in your the head 'speak out' to you ?!

lchic - 05:27pm Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11296 of 11300)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

FISK : Saddam is airbrushed out by the city that bore his name

http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=396947

FISK was heard guesting on a bbc radio talk show ... saying how he stood watching an Iraqi building of antiquities burn ... how a few ancient papers blew his way ... how the inferno burnt. He also note that all government buildings (excepting oil and interior) met the same fate.

Drat - Fisk's 'mouse' - is - Rat!

lchic - 05:30pm Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11297 of 11300)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

A new kind of war

the British prevailed upon the Americans to scale down some of the destructive power, perhaps realising that the Iraqi regime and its military were far weaker than many had imagined

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2946597.stm

mazza9 - 11:24pm Apr 14, 2003 EST (# 11298 of 11300)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Bush conquers Iraq in 4 weeks!

Clinton conquers the Branch Dividian compound in 6 weeks! BTW they were all civilian casualties including 22 children! Where were the protestors then?

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