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jorian319
- 03:41pm Apr 9, 2003 EST (#
11217 of 11222)
Don't worry alarmst, there's still time to find a
reason to level Baghdad. Sorry - I'm trying really hard not to
say "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"
...and besides, even my own prognostication provided that
this would not be the tough part of winning a solution of
benefit to the Iraqi people. I'm sure that at this point,
alarmst will agree (he always has) that the worst is yet to
come.
Robert, mighty large of you to offer to rescind comments
you don't remember making... maybe one of your hordes of
readers will find time to pore through the thousands of links
you've provided to your own writings, and submit some
candidates for possible apology.
rshow55
- 04:20pm Apr 9, 2003 EST (#
11218 of 11222) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
On the subject of apology and correction - I don't think
I've got much of consequence to take back - but a little thing
like this thread doesn't matter so much.
The Arab press does matter a lot - and issues of
correction - and comparison between what the Arab press said,
and how it was balanced - and what happened - might be useful.
If the US engaged the Arab press - pointing out their
errors - but also admitting American mistakes when they were
made - some crazy things might become less crazy. If people,
not excepting Bush, were just a little less crazy a lot
might go better. People are having to rethink some things -
and that makes this a good time for honest engagement.
Arabs Watch Hussein's Demise in Disbelief By REUTERS
Filed at 1:11 p.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/international/international-iraq-arabs-saddam.html
CAIRO (Reuters) - Arabs watched in disbelief
on Wednesday as Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, described by
one Moroccan as the Arab world's ``best dictator,'' lost
Baghdad to U.S.-led forces without a fight.
``It's like a movie. I can't believe what
I'm seeing,'' said Adel, a lawyer in Beirut. ``Why didn't he
just give up to start with if this was all the resistance he
could muster? Instead of wasting all those lives for
nothing.''
Maybe the answer was that Saddam, and a lot of his
supporters in Iraq and all over the Arab world - were a little
crazy - deceptive and self deceptive - about some basic
things.
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The Daily Star of Beruit is no fan of the the US -
but its editorial office has people who say some sensible
things. Might be good people to engage in conversation - about
details - and what people can reasonably ask for and hope for.
Arab world needs to start doing something useful, the
Daily Star, 4/1/03 http://www.aljazeerah.info/1%20op%20eds/Arab%20world%20needs%20to%20start%20doing%20something%20useful,%20the%20Daily%20Star%20aljazeerah.info.htm
" . . . . Everything about Arab governance
and Arab culture, especially as regards the influence of
Islam, is being subjected to intense scrutiny by what can
only be perceived as hostile foreign powers.
It might be well to clarify what that hostility is and
isn't.
- - -
A Daily Star editor wrote this op-ed:
The War Americans Don't See By RAMI G. KHO http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/04/opinion/04KHOU.html
. . .
"Arabs are increasingly tired of being lied
to and presented with only half of reality, and their press
is starting to reflect this.
"The press also is starting to reflect
fast-changing Arab attitudes, as more and more people in
this region criticize both American military attacks and the
tradition of autocratic Arab regimes that have caused so
much waste and destruction in modern times. One antidote to
the cumulative catastrophes that have plagued the modern
Arab world is truth and intellectual balance, and the press
is also beginning to reflect this important demand as well.
As for me, I think the Bush administration ought to deal
with each and every criticism Krugman makes - they're more
important than mine.
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