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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 03:01pm Apr 4, 2003 EST (#
11085 of 11089)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Well, jorian319 - 01:20pm Apr 4, 2003 EST (# 11078 ,
you're certainly right that lchic posts a lot. If you
read her posts - they are all different (in some ways)
- similar in others. Fascinating to me. Beautiful. But with
repetitions, too.
Not by accident - for her, or for me. We're trying to show
something important - something people need to be much
clearer about to sort out things which have been going wrong
with monotonous regularity.
I think what we're doing is important - but then,
the most important things in life are, in some sense
"cliches" - - in some sense "boring" - -
including some basic matters of life and death - and some
matters closely linked to some philosophical - religious -
practical issues that have concerned people for as long as
people have been around.
Just posted this on a Guardian thread titled
Fractals . . http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.4a90f6e9/0
setting up for a very boring demonstration that I think
would have fascinated Socrates, Plato, or Russell, or Bill
Casey.
The NYT Missile Defense thread is in some ways "like" a
fractal - in the higher dimensionality that human discourse
occurs - but with some of the symmettry of a Sierpinski
triangle
http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/chaos-game/node5.html
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1705
...
and I've been paying so much attention to the MD thread
that I've neglected this one. I hope to do a demonstration of
the fractal nature of discourse, on that thread, related to
the notion of paradigm conflict that Dawn Riley and I
have worked so hard on
Here are some references, to the
Riley-Showalter paradigm thread, Paradigm Shift ....
whose getting there? ... #116 - rshow55 Mar 2, 2002
05:34 pm http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/137
The notion of fractals is invoked explicity on these
postings:
10330 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/11876
10332 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/11878
10473 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12022
10512 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12061
10554 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12104
10829 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12380
10804 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12355
10825 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12376
10912 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12463
11044 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12595
11052 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.jx1RalHT6yz.504977@.f28e622/12603
If we're to make peace, in ways that can be either just or
stable - people need to know this "simple stuff"
better.
jorian319
- 04:07pm Apr 4, 2003 EST (#
11086 of 11089)
This whole thread is fairly fractal - look at one of your
(collective) posts, and you seen 'em all.
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