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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
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rshow55
- 06:31pm Apr 3, 2003 EST (#
11023 of 11028)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
If people ask what it is they are thinking of when they use
words or take actions, and try to get clear about that - we
might be able to do better than we'll do otherwise. What
fits?
Almarst has his problems with Friedman, and
sometimes for reasons that I can sympathize with, but
sometimes Friedman does point out things worth noticing. He
did in his August 18, 2002 piece Fog of War http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/opinion/18FRIE.html?ei=5070&en=ce3476fe1e5ea656&ex=1049432400&pagewanted=print&position=top
"A remarkable news article from Gaza
appeared in The Washington Post last week, and it deserved
more attention than it got. The article reported that for
the past month, the 12 main Palestinian factions had been
holding secret talks to determine the "ground rules for
their uprising against Israel, trying to agree on such
fundamental issues as why they are fighting, what they need
to end the conflict and whether suicide bombings are a
legitimate weapon."
"Let me repeat that in case you missed it:
two years into the Palestinian uprising, Palestinian
factions were meeting to determine why they are fighting and
whether their means are legitimate.
. . . .
. . . "the Arab and European "friends" of
the Palestinians, instead of confronting them on this issue,
became their apologists and enablers, telling us why the
Palestinians' "desperation" had led them to suicide bombing.
It was their enabling that helped produce this situation
where the Palestinians, two years into a disastrous war, are
meeting to decide what it is about."
It seems to me that the logic of some situations, when
consequences matter, ought to be clear - clear enough that I
don't think any imaginable god could change it.
Sometimes, when muddle is serious enough - people need
to "get their house in order."
lchic
- 06:36pm Apr 3, 2003 EST (#
11024 of 11028) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Religious Shackles - poem - dR3
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?53@@.eea14e1/7805
lchic
- 06:38pm Apr 3, 2003 EST (#
11025 of 11028) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
The Kurds in Northern Iraq
have established a 'living cultural model'
that maximises the NOW
Palestinians should take note - s!
dccougar
- 06:47pm Apr 3, 2003 EST (#
11026 of 11028) Everyone is entitled to his own
opinion but not his own facts.
"Clear communication is vital."
Yes, I think the current clear communication to the Iraqi
soldiers should be, "Drop your weapons or you're toast."
rshow55
- 06:52pm Apr 3, 2003 EST (#
11027 of 11028)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Real surrenders aren't usually that simple.
The inconvenience of "making toast" of all the Iraqi
soldiers is substantial enough to justify some careful
communication.
I do agree that there should be an orderly
and complete surrender.
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