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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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lchic
- 06:44am Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1750
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Kiss guy
didn't!
lchic
- 07:51am Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1751
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The message to the 1.2billion Arabs is to be 'do what you
like' ... unless Bush gets his act together - which he's incapable
of ?!?
rshow55
- 12:55pm Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1752
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MD662 rshow55
3/18/02 9:55am . . . breaking the cycle. Truth, and apologies,
may help. . . Even when punishment is not an issue, or when it can't
be.
The future matters.
lchic
- 02:30pm Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1753
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The 'cycle' wheels a TANK - re BushSharon - GI will know 'that
future plan' ....
lchic
- 02:40pm Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1754
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International Water
Today the world faces increasing problems with water
distribution - water for drinking, for washing and sanitation, and
for agriculture. Water shortages, often affecting the poorest
countries, can lead to conflict within and between nations. Dr
Patricia Wouters, Centre for Energy, Petroleum and Mineral Law and
Policy, is focusing on national and international law to help
resolve potential conflict. http://www.dundee.ac.uk/pressoffice/annualrep9900/world.htm
Seems there's more than OIL to fight about - WATER
next ... if the fight moves to water .... who will get the
funding and guns from the US to fight over this?
lchic
- 03:08pm Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1755
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/165xqyni.asp
"" ...... The Islamist fanatic and the bourgeoisophobe hate
the same things. They use the same words, they utter the same
protests. In an essay in the New York Review of Books called
"Occidentalism," Avishai Margalit and Ian Buruma listed the traits
that enrage al Qaeda and other Third World anti-Americans and
anti-Westerners. First, they hate the city. Cities stand for
commerce, mixed populations, artistic freedom, and sexual license.
Second, they hate the mass media: advertising, television, pop
music, and videos. Third, they hate science and technology--the
progress of technical reason, mechanical efficiency, and material
know-how. Fourth, they hate prudence, the desire to live safely
rather than court death and heroically flirt with violence. Fifth,
they hate liberty, the freedom extended even to mediocre people.
Sixth, they despise the emancipation of women. As Margalit and
Buruma note, "Female emancipation leads to bourgeois decadence."
Women are supposed to stay home and breed heroic men. When women
go out into the world, they deprive men of their manhood and
weaken their virility.
If you put these six traits together, you have pretty much the
pillars of meritocratic capitalist society, practiced most
assertively in countries like America and Israel. Contemporary
Muslim rage is further inflamed by two additional passions. One is
a sense of sexual shame. A rite of passage for any bourgeoisophobe
of this type is the youthful trip to America or to the West, where
the writer is nearly seduced by the vulgar hedonism of capitalist
life, but heroically spurns it. Sayyid Qutb, who is one of the
intellectual heroes of the Islamic extremists, toured America
between 1948 and 1950. He found a world of jazz, football, movies,
cars, and people obsessed with lawn maintenance. ........ The
second inflaming passion is humiliation--humiliation caused by the
fact that in the 1960s and 1970s, many Arab and Muslim nations
tried to join this bourgeois world. They tried to modernize, and
they failed. Some Arab countries continue to pursue the low and
dirty modernizing path, continue to ape the sordid commercialists
and even to accept the presence of American troops on Arabian
soil. And this drives the hard-core Islamic bourgeoisophobes to
even higher states of rage. .....
lchic
- 03:16pm Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1756
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Revenge - book review http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/story/2319783p-2747920c.html
mazza9
- 04:43pm Apr 25, 2002 EST (#1757
of 1805)
Louis Mazza
lchic:
Water!!!If you haven't noticed the planet is 80% covered by water
with the average depth about 10,000' In fact, were the land masses
bulldozed into the sea and distributed evenly, the average depth of
our "Water World" would be greater than 9,000'
I realize that you see water as a prime consideration in the
efficacy of missile defense but, in my opinion, you're wasting
bandwith.
LouMazza:-(
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