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- 02:14pm Apr 24, 2002 EST (#1743
lchic and Robert:
Homeland security has been bolstered and we can all sleep
- 03:58pm Apr 24, 2002 EST (#1744
Good that Dad's Batman's Boy's Army is doing the job!
- 04:06pm Apr 24, 2002 EST (#1745
Kissinger - London - Protest
"" As human rights campaigners demonstrated outside the
Royal Albert Hall in London, the target of their protest, Henry
Kissinger, today admitted inside it was possible that "mistakes
were made" by the US administrations he served in. But the former
secretary of state questioned whether a court was the right place
to examine them, saying it would be impossible to recall every one
of thousands of ...... http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,689870,00.html
... The decisions made in high office are usually 51-49
decisions .... "This is not the end of the line. I will continue
to seek Mr Kissinger's arrest on charges that, while he was US
national security adviser to President Richard Nixon, he was the
chief architect of a US war policy which resulted in the killing,
injuring and displacement of 3 million Vietnamese and Cambodian
people," ..... "The victims of his crimes demand justice." ""
- 04:42pm Apr 24, 2002 EST (#1746
France : http://slate.msn.com/?id=2064643
- 04:59pm Apr 24, 2002 EST (#1747
"CIA worked in tandem with Pak to create Taliban" LONDON: The
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) worked in tandem with Pakistan to
create the "monster" that is today Afghanistan's ruling Taliban, a
leading US expert on South Asia said here.
"I warned them that we were creating a monster," Selig Harrison
from the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars said at
the conference here last week on "Terrorism and Regional Security:
Managing the Challenges in Asia."
Harrison said: "The CIA made a historic mistake in encouraging
Islamic groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan." The
US provided $3 billion for building up these Islamic groups, and it
accepted Pakistan's demand that they should decide how this money
should be spent, Harrison said.
Harrison, who spoke before the Taliban assault on the Buddha
statues was launched, told the gathering of security experts that he
had meetings with CIA leaders at the time when Islamic forces were
being strengthened in Afghanistan. "They told me these people were
fanatical, and the more fierce they were the more fiercely they
would fight the Soviets," he said. "I warned them that we were
creating a monster."
Harrison, who has written five books on Asian affairs and US
relations with Asia, has had extensive contact with the CIA and
political leaders in South Asia. Harrison was a senior associate of
the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace between 1974 and
Harrison who is now senior fellow with The Century Foundation
recalled a conversation he had with the late Gen Zia-ul Haq of
Pakistan. "Gen Zia spoke to me about expanding Pakistan's sphere of
influence to control Afghanistan, then Uzbekistan and Tajikstan and
then Iran and Turkey," Harrison said. That design continues, he
said. Gen.Mohammed Aziz who was involved in that Zia plan has been
elevated now to a key position by Chief Executive, Gen. Pervez
Musharraf, Harrison said.
The old associations between the intelligence agencies continue,
Harrison said. "The CIA still has close links with the ISI
(Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence)."
Today that money and those weapons have helped build up the
Taliban, Harrison said. "The Taliban are not just recruits from
'madrassas' (Muslim theological schools) but are on the payroll of
the ISI (Inter Services Intelligence, the intelligence wing of the
Pakistani government)." The Taliban are now "making a living out of
Harrison said the UN Security Council resolution number 1333
calls for an embargo on arms to the Taliban. "But it is a resolution
without teeth because it does not provide sanctions for
non-compliance," he said. "The US is not backing the Russians who
want to give more teeth to the resolution."
Now it is Pakistan that "holds the key to the future of
Afghanistan," Harrison said. The creation of the Taliban was central
to Pakistan's "pan-Islamic vision," Harrison said.
It came after "the CIA made the historic mistake of encouraging
Islamic groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan," he
said. The creation of the Taliban had been "actively encouraged by
the ISI and the CIA," he said. "Pakistan has been building up Afghan
collaborators who will sustain Pakistan," he said. (IANS) see
- 09:45pm Apr 24, 2002 EST (#1748
""CIA worked in tandem with Pak to create Taliban"
In my view, this was just an extream example of a very
fundamental US policy of undermining the Communism.
Against the Communists basic ideas of Atheism and Friendship of
all Workers Worldwide, united against a common Enemy - The Capital,
the US decided to play the Nationalism and Religious Extremism. None
of which could be played better the Pan-Islamism - the Taliban
stile. This was designed to hit the USSR particularely hard due to
its large Muslim population in Central Asian Republics.
The Separatism, Nazionalism and Religious Intolerance Card played
as well in Baltics, Moldova and Ukraine.
One of the Architects was Zbignev Bzezisky who played a central
role of establishing and arming the Afgan fighters based in Pakistan
with a help from Saudi Arabia.
The same model was applied later on in Chechnia and Yugoslavia.
After the fall of the Communism, the US priority became promotion
of Globalization. Which found the great obsticle in face of its own
previous creation - Separatism, Nazionalism and Religious/Islamic
- 10:56pm Apr 24, 2002 EST (#1749
And the CIA shot themselves in the foot come 9/11 - the size of
one football field .... poor Jenin has a 3 sized football field of
I'm not religious but i do remember a religous type saying "I am
the truth and the light" .. or some such ... setting an example for
behaviour that the CIA types who will be in Church come Sunday will
hear .... they must be pretty dumb if they don't really understand
what is meant by the phrase!
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