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- 09:11pm Apr 18, 2002 EST (#1514
It is a political disaster, for sure.
Almarst , I admire your postings -- has all the work
you've done on this thread since March 2001 made a difference to the
discourse of world politics? My guess is -- perhaps yes.
3/13/02 11:51pm includes this:
Casablanca is common ground, something culturally literate
Americans know -- and that people the whole world over understand,
at the level of sympathy, and intellectually, too. I used the movie
as a point of departure in PSYCHWAR, CASABLANCA, AND TERROR ,
which tells a key story about the Cold War, interesting to American,
Russians, and others. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/0
Especially the core story part, from posting 13 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/12
to posting 23 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/22
There is a comment in #26 that I feel some may find interesting, as
A fairly compact ongoing summary of this thread from September
25, 2000 to date, which is too large for easy reading, but not for
sampling, is set out with many links in Psychwar, Casablanca, and
Terror -- from #151 on... http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/159
It involves many links to postings prior to March 1 that no
longer work, but a good deal of information on what has happened on
this thread, as well.
I think some of what is said makes more sense, and fits more
context, because of things we are seeing now.
If people start insisting on the truth - - a lot might be
set right. A step in the right direction happened today.
The Army Secretary's Duty
Army Secretary Thomas White has repeatedly pledged that if
questions stemming from his ties to Enron became too much of a
distraction, he would resign. They now have, and he should. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/18/opinion/_18THU1.html
- 10:20pm Apr 18, 2002 EST (#1515
War Crimes :
VIOLATION OF BASIC HUMANITARIAN PRINCIPLES ME
The Palestinian Massacre is topping the news here non-stop ... !
Michael Keating >>
Switzerland Norway are sending disaster teams are coming in.
Psychological support required for population.
Infrastructure destroyed including medic-ambulances. Arafat
detailing extent of distruction.
Israeli defense forces have exasperated UN-Europe by their lack
All equipment may be brought in from Europe - non-cooperation
Children to be told to stay off area - unexploded bombs.
International protection required for physical and human
rebuilding (dw Berlin).
(IsraelJerus - in denial) - disappointed that Powell did not get
to ceasefire -- Israel in for a 'resumption of the violence' ... ...
International Public Opinion turning against Israel? Ans - YES (esp
Europe Newspapers - united re Powell's mission - 'the smell of
death and lies from Jenin' will follow Israel.
Is there a reference to this in the NYT's ?
A $US disaster today!
- 10:23pm Apr 18, 2002 EST (#1516
Putin - lays out the 'problems' of Ru, would like to see end of
corruption, removal of red tape (money bribes), and freer process.
Recognising the problems is seeing truths. When truths are
accepted - then need for solutions can be seen by all.
- 10:43pm Apr 18, 2002 EST (#1517
"WHY DID THE WORLD STAND BACK AND LET THIS HAPPEN?"
is the question on the lips of Jenin women ... so why ?
Gisterme didn't rush to invite the Jews back to live in the USA -
There is now a moral imperative for America to give the
people of Jenin homes and shelter and medicine and education within
America - until Jenin is rebuilt!
It is American funding and equipment and failure to reign-in
Sharon that have allowed this to happen - that's weak leadership in
- 10:48pm Apr 18, 2002 EST (#1518
Putin - said the war with Chechnya is OVER and Cheynians should
concentrate on being part of the RuFederation and develop their
No full scale war - but the deaths and killings go on.
- 10:56pm Apr 18, 2002 EST (#1519
HAARETZ - There was no massacre in Jenin - http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=153511&contrassID=2&subContrassID=3&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
I HOPE THAT IS TRUE.
- 11:04pm Apr 18, 2002 EST (#1520
One more time it should be noticed that US authorities fully
mastered the principle of double standards. For the sake of justice
(as it is understood in Washington) the White House is ready to send
soldiers even to Antarctica. While at the same time, it did not want
to help to other countriesí justice. For, Kissinger is being called
only to testify. Could it be, that official Washington is afraid of
Kissingerís evidence to damage US prestige as the main bastion of
democracy? Probably, it is really so. Therefore, ex-Secretary of
State hardly will appear before Spanish trial. - http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/18/27754.html
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