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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 03:28pm Apr 11, 2002 EST (#1264
Now, I've looked at the references in MD7136, and there are some
click-throughs from those references that I've looked at as well. If
gisterme or anybody else asks, I can post these. For the life
of me, I can't see how any reasonably objective person, looking at
these references, could object much to my statement that
gisterme's work almost certainly shows consultation with
colleagues. Nor can I myself see an example of anything
gisterme posted for technical references that I didn't deal
with carefully and correctly. Insofar as I can remember, and have
been able to check, there wasn't a single technical point that
gisterme made on the whole MD thread that I didn't consider -
and respond to when there was anything of substance to respond to.
If someone, willing to play the role of umpire, would like me to
make that case in more detail -- I believe I could.
I was astonished when gisterme said in MD1243 rshow55
4/10/02 6:44pm that "I only want to check what is uncheckable."
I've wanted to check the checkable . MD1257 rshow55
4/11/02 7:34am today offers clear examples. .
I'll may be saying more about MD1243 gisterme
For now, I find myself recalling the question about decency in
Paul Krugman's At Long Last? http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/05/opinion/05KRUG.html
gisterme , you have, I believe, many of the worst
characteristics, and many of the best characteristics, of a Stanford
Provost I admire very much in some ways. Even so, with respect to
MD1243 it seems to me that it is fair to ask sharply:
"Where is decency?"
Not in MD1243 gisterme
4/11/02 3:24am .
- 04:13pm Apr 11, 2002 EST (#1265
If gisterme can cite a single example, ever, where I've
taken a position that was not intended to be in the real
security interest of the United States -- I'd be interested.
I've always intended to act in the real interest of the
United States, and I believe that I have.
Under the circumstances, it has been difficult and hazerdous
duty, I believe. But given my circumstances, and the promises I have
made, an obligation.
Defending the United States, and serving the interests of the
United States is serious business -- that deserves more than
enronation . - - Serving the United States, in the real
world, requires right answers.
Not frauds, or muddles so serious that they are very hard
to distinguish from frauds.
- 05:19pm Apr 11, 2002 EST (#1266
If I may add a it, I heard that another critical problem with the
booster-phase laser interception are the rocket fumes that explode
out of the boosting rocket and the fact that such fumes/gases
spreading out fast make the targeting near impossible (even if no
reflective counter-measures are not there). Of course this is the
problem that gisterms of the world will face only after they get a
functional laser weapon developed...which is not yet a feasible
proposition due to the "limitations of of currently known physics"
as RSHOW tried to explain.....:-) But what the heck, no rational
thoughts would stop this political pork and the gisterms of this
world at this point....we shoudl just think of the $300 billion to
be spent for the next 5 years as a new welfare program for them and
have soem peace fo mind about it, rshow.
- 05:27pm Apr 11, 2002 EST (#1267
Haven't you heard of the "faith-based" welfare program?
- 07:57pm Apr 11, 2002 EST (#1268
Especially after MD1234 rshow55
4/10/02 1:53pm , the NYT Missile Defense tread has been active.
I made an "off the cuff" comment, and drew a distinguished poster,
gisterme , in a very few minutes.
Here is the "off the cuff" comment.
Just musing -- if I put on a suit, shined my
shoes, and walked into the State Department - asking for
permission to see some people -- what do you think might happen?
I'd like to make a pitch to the Russian Embassy,
and some other places, as well.
What would happen? For me, that's a very practical questions. I
need to be able to function.
3/28/02 12:11pm . . . . Almarst , if you were a leader of
Russia, or China, what would you ask the leader of America to do --
what would you want American voters to understand?
4/10/02 9:48am ... MD1229 rshow55
4/10/02 11:28am ...
Saving the expense of "Star Wars" is important - but to me, it is
still secondary. What is most important is that we learn to tell the
truth, and find the truth, about questions of fact on which our
welfare and survival depend.
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