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- 12:43am Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1227
IS WalkerBush the weakest USA leader - ever? lchic
The ferocious battle for Jenin camp - a square kilometre
housing 16,000 people - last night entered the bloody lore of
the Middle East: a fiasco for Israel, an immensely costly victory
for the Palestinians, who reportedly suffered as many as 100 dead,
with corpses rotting in the lanes of the camp for days.
As night fell, Israeli helicopter gunships and tanks resumed
their bombardment of the camp
"There was no massacre. There was a very tough war there
Red Crescent yesterday warned of the dangers of an epidemic
because of the corpses decomposing
It was the disaster critics of Israel's offensive had been
predicting for some time.
"They came with giant sledgehammers, and they destroyed the walls
from one side to the other," said a metal worker who lives in the
camp, but did not give his name for fear of reprisal.
The soldiers then hauled men out of the captured homes, beat
them, bound their hands and blindfolded them, stripped them to their
underwear, and shipped them off to an Israeli military base for
questioning, said the metal worker, who was detained for 24 hours.
"They beat my brother - 100 times they hit him with their batons, on
his shoulders, his stomach and his back," he said.
On Sunday, the fourth day of fighting in the camp, the mosques
remained in Palestinian hands, and the call for prayer from the
minaret ... "The Israelis would go crazy when they would hear the
sound of the azaan ," the metal worker said. "They would just start
There was no water, and food was running out.
"I am 200 metres away as the crow flies from the refugee camp,
and I do not know what is happening inside," said a Palestinian Red
Crescent official in Jenin town. "We have not entered the refugee
camp in eight days. We don't know how many dead are lying there, or
how many injured. We only hear the sounds of gunfire and war." http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,681676,00.html
- 01:18am Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1228
America it seems is duty bound to deflect that billion dollar
subsidy from Israel to Palestine - to assist the rebuild!
Will these Palestinians be making a group-action claim against
Israel for 'loss of breadwinner', 'kidnap', personnal assault, loss
of limbs and function, psychological trauma-torture, home
replacement, infrastructure replacement, roads replacement .... etc
There must be a group of Arab Lawyers in the USA working on this
- right now - the Isreali's have no understanding of the 'value of
money' it seems!
- 09:48am Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1229
Maybe people are paying more attention -- thinking harder -- and
revulsion for war -- even with much, much lower body counts than
often occur in wars -- may be growing, and focusing.
Some things that seem "impossibly ugly" go on - and are not
corrected, even when the correction is "clear" -- because things
that have to be done at the same time for fundamental reasons
are not done at the same time - in large part because of failures of
rules and negotiating techniques.
Failures of rules and negotiating technique in areas where people
already know many of the difficulties.
Problems, once they get bad enough so that people face them,
often do get solved. Maybe some progress can be made in the Middle
- 09:59am Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1230
I've been looking at the question -- how would you really
get an unlimited supply of solar energy - in technical terms, the
basic ways forward are clear - but actually doing it is much less
I've done a lot of looking, some calculating - and I've gotten to
"How would you make a fully believable,
interesting movie about doing this job?
By the time the movie was done, if the job was actually
technically realistic -- people would know a lot about how, in
enough detail to raise the organizational, financial, and political
resources needed to do the job.
In fact, getting a business proposal good enough for the job, and
getting the movie done -- share a lot of elements -- and might be
done in parallel.
The way I'm looking at it now, to make either the movie or the
project real, Vladimir Putin would have to be a "star." In at least
these ways. He'd have to write a committment letter that was clear,
and clearly in the interest of Russia and the EU - so that the
project could make sense as a business proposition. He'd have to do
a cameo appearance in the movie. -- He'd have to support the
project, at the level of a few phone calls - so it could actually be
Would these things take "miracles"? Maybe. But if you could get
these miracles -- you might be able to get the rest of the miracles
required, as well.
More later -- but at the level of structure - raising the
resources for a project as big as this one -- enough so the project
would actually work -- would be a major "production" - - and
involves very many of the skills movie making also requires.
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