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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 05:48pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1191
I mentioned what I'd heard at the OTA in my next meeting with
Bill Casey. He then gave me some advice set out in http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/289
Community standards are vital, and some of the best ones in
America are reflected, focused, and formed at The New York
Almarst , lchic , and I disagree on some things,
but we agree that, in order for the world to be more peaceful and
prosperous, some community standards and community perceptions in
the United States need to be reassessed - discussed in more detail,
with a more careful, more balanced "connecting of the dots." I feel
honored to be permitted to post here.
There are issues about "missile defense" that ought to be
checked, and explained so that better decisions can be made. MD84
- 08:37pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1192
On 'getting things done' the Nation State or an amalgamation of
States - can find capital. As pointed out (above) the laying down of
infrastructure often depends on initial finance from the State. At a
later time when the project is up and running as a business giving
returns - then the State may offload to private sector who look for
If the USA were truly 'capitalist' it wouldn't collect taxes - it
- 09:12pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1193
"If the USA were truly 'capitalist' it wouldn't collect taxes
- it does!"
I found less problem with the fact that taxes are collected then
with the way they are spent. I feel that an ordinary US taxpayer
does not get nearly his money back. Unlike in Europe, for example,
where the taxes are high but are spent on a social programs and
improvement of a communal quality of living to the much greater
- 10:03pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1194
Almarst , you asked extremely good questions in MD1140
4/6/02 9:32am and I'm going to respond.
It would be easier to answer, in detail, if some of the issues
connected to MD1152 rshow55
4/6/02 4:47pm were clarified. That would require checking.
To get some important kinds of jobs done, nation states have to
be able to be involved. Sometimes, the best results are possible if
government and capitalistic mechanisms are mixed.
Just a question. Suppose that all the technical problems
involved in the proposal for large scale solar energy set out in
4/5/02 8:39pm were solved. Now, to get a going enterprise --
how much money would it take, before break-even cash flow?
Payoff would be worth trillions of dollars. But to get to
payoff would require nation state level protection, and capital
flows of political size.
Capitalism could get to "proof of principle" -- but only
if there was a reasonable change of getting the VERY large
investments necessary, when the time came.
Frm 1149 --- MD669 lchic
3/18/02 11:51am -- decision tree-- expert systems.
Sometimes, at some levels, nation states have to be involved.
If someone checked the AEA program, it would look very "strange"
-- unless you assumed, as I did when I was running AEA, that a
nation state was involved, and prepared to provide backup, for
capital, once "proof of priciple" was far enough along.
It almost worked. At a decisive stage, that neither Casey nor I
predicted, I failed physically.
- 10:07pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1195
Almarst , with good luck, I'll be able to get you a good
answer to the question with which you end MD1140 almarst-2001
4/6/02 9:32am , tomorrow.
I have a question in my mind now. Posting on this forum is all
very well. But suppose I asked for a hearing at the Russian Embassy
- for a business proposal.
What would happen to me?
I'm finding that an interesting question, and have some high
anxieties about the answer.
. . . .
It seems to me that if the U.S. government wanted to talk to me,
they would have done so some time ago.
- 10:20pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1196
-- on beauty, ugliness -- and promise.
We are special animals -- and capable, often enough, of
unbelievable brutality, duplicity, and ugliness.
We'd be safer if we were clearer about that.
Still, just now, I feel like posting some beautiful things from
museums and artistic sites, mostly Russian, collected by lunarchic
We need to remember both the ugliness, the danger, and the good
-- and do as well as we can, without lies that mislead, brutalize,
and endanger us.
. . . .
If we play some things straight, and don't cling to
fiction-boondoggles like "missile defense" -- we can be safer and
more comfortable than we are.
We could even learn to make peace. We've got some reason to think
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