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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 01:29pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1120
The risks to the whole world are great enough that heads of
nation states ought to be paying attention, and asking questions.
The "missile defense" muddle-fraud ought to be a good place to start
asking questions, because the deceptions are so blatant and so
- 01:38pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1121
Ken STARR was looking into the Carlyle - Conflict of Interest
matter - impeachment - Village Voice August 2001 .... his
attention's slipped !?!
And the rest of America - too busy fawning to the Texas Cowboy!
- 01:47pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1122
US today signalled a significant shift in its handling of
the Middle East crisis, saying it is willing to open discussions
on Palestinian demands before the current violence is brought
under control http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/s521255.htm
- 02:10pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1123
On issues of missile defense, the question of fraud, and other
forms of systematic deception, aren't the only questions. But they
are questions that need to be adressed.
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How do we get facts accepted ?
There needs to be some decency - some sense that, when stakes go
beyond a point, getting right answers is a moral obligation.
That kind of decency is lacking today.
- 03:04pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1124
Sometimes things get better. It can happen quickly. Russia is in
far better shape than she was last March -- see "Muddle in
Russia, under Putin's leadership, has faced up to problems it
actually had, and moved forward in sensible ways.
What would happen if the United States used the resources it
had more effectively? What if we made decisions with more of the
honesty and competence that the rest of the world hopes for, and
expects from America ?
We could have better security. Both because of increased military
effectiveness and because we'd be more respected and less hated..
And if we took some of the resources now squandered on programs
that can't possibly work, and spent them on real national needs -- a
lot might get done. We might get a long way toward solving both the
world's long term energy shortage, and global warming, if we
redeployed money now wasted on "missile defense" programs that have
absolutely no chance of working.
If the US was more honest about its problems, we'd also
have a better chance of getting other people in the world to solve
theirs, and to attend to our notions of morality.
- 05:47pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1125
The 21st century is starting off badly for America....beginning
with that infamous Clinton/Marc Rich sell-off of presidential power;
the constitutional crisis re: Bush's election in Florida; the Enron
scandel manifesting the corruption of American system to its core;
the 9/11 attack on NYC; $300 billion forced march toward NMD
nirvana...the list is long and the problem is beyond the individual
personalities (i.e. Bush, Clinton, Skilling, etc).
And now, the American foregin policy with Bush Jr. at its helm is
facing the most important crisis of all.....rejection of American
leadership in both Western Europe and East Asia. The signs are not
yet too obvious but they are slowly but surely making strategic
decisions that run contrary to the US leadership in their regions.
After all, much of American power was "given" unto it and what was
once given can be taken away....consensus creeps on you and before
you realize it, it would be a reality on the ground. I apologize for
sounding too vague in this posting but.....to quote rshow's dictum
"connect the dots".....here are some dots.......Europe's decision to
deploy Galileo GPS system; Japan's go-alone decision on key military
programs (i.e. H2 and reconn. satellite programs) and its China
plan; China's rapidly progressing independent space program and the
development of the continental economy; Islam rage against America
(a Zionist colony in their book)......Well, no wonder I almost miss
Bush senior lately. He was in many ways the last of the "tribe" that
led the American century. Is there hope on the horizon? Looking at
the crops of American leaders today, one has to be a bit depressed.
- 05:57pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1126
Character precedes visions in my opinion. While being sympathetic
of your lamentations re: distorted priorities, they are the natural
fruits of the fact that the collective American character has been
much distorted first thanks to Hollywoodization of American politics
and media for the last 30 years of 20th century........Americans
love NMD because it fits their collective imagination molded by
Hollywood and the "instant culture." Diplomacy and negotiations are
for sissies and most of all boring. Teh babyboomer politicians lack
the backbone of those tough souls who grew up during the
depression....I am sounding way too depressing today, my apologies.
Maybe Rshow's enlightening ideas of hydrogen-based fuel system or
aquacultural solution to world hunger will lighten my spirit ? So
spill the beans, rshow, how can aquaculture program feed hungry NKs,
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