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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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- 01:03pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1113
I responded to MD1073 mazza9
with a reference to extensive missile defense discussions in
4/4/02 12:21pm responded to a question Mazza asked, and
Some of my background, which you also know, was on this thread
before March 2, and is now set out on a Guardian thread ..
Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror
Yesterday, I summarized some of the work on this thread in http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/297
It is very important that we find a way to "connect the dots" so
that facts can be focused, and established. If we can find a way to
do that, this is a very hopeful time. But as of now, patterns are
such that nothing is taken to closure - and the world is far uglier
in consequence. Facts, when they matter enough, need to be
Paul Krugman's The Smoke Machine http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/29/opinion/29KRUG.html
Connect the Dots http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/02/opinion/02KRUG.html
give good reason for the whole world to worry about a "vast
right-wing conspiracy" -- a conspracy not only dishonest, but none
today, Krugman asks in At Long Last? http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/05/opinion/05KRUG.html
"where is decency?"
Journalistic and political technique needs to be refined,
so that decency can be enforced -- which means that facts have to be
checked to closure, and patterns as well, when they are important
- 01:05pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1114
... now which 'bit' of the defense area does Carlyle not
engage in ?
Ans: Defense Technology (Venture Capital)
'more MISS than
- 01:06pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1115
Facts like the ones about Carlyle cannot be allowed to
just "shed off" like "water on a duck's back" without effect.
To much is at stake for that.
- 01:17pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1116
.... death by association !
Associative psychology - links
Levin (1987). Associative effects of information framing.
Bulletin of the Psychnomic Society, 25, 85-86.
Levin, Chapman & Johnson (1988). Confidence in judgments
based on incomplete information: An investigation using both
hypothetical and real gambles. Journal of Behavioral Decision
Making, 1, 29-41.
Levin, I. P. & Gaeth, G. J. (1988). How consumers are
affected by the framing of attribute information before and after
consuming the product. Journal of Consumer Research, 15, 374-378.
Truth is seldom evident in history except when it
coincides with what is desired by each historian. "Official truth"
should always be suspect. The word "Pravda" meant truth. No doubt
today it has another meaning in the USSR. Propaganda used to mean
"to enlighten the people to the truth." Since Hitler's time and
that of his Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, it has come
to mean something sinister — although it may well have always
meant something sinister to the the American Indian. How many
students are aware that Columbus wrote in his diary upon his
"discovery" of America:
They ... brought us parrots and balls of cotton ... They
willingly traded everything they owned ... They were well built
with good bodies and handsome features ... They do not bear arms,
and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by
the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron.
Their spears are made out of cane ... They would make fine
servants ... With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make
them do whatever we want (Zinn, 1980, p.1). From 1492 to 1508,
over three million people in the Americas had perished from war,
slavery, and working the mines. (Zinn 1980). http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume5/j5_2_5.htm
- 01:19pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1117
The comments/feel re Carlyle (internationally) are that the US
suppresses FREE SPEECH - 1st Amendment - on such matters!
- 01:23pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1118
As I pointed out above 1-3 ... the USA isn't a democracy - if it
were it would be run by the people via Congress - it ain't.
The US tripartite system of government seems to be :
1. The military machine
2. The President
3. Corruption with Agency
and a long way behind ... the people/Congress
- 01:25pm Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1119
One and Two above are OUT of CONTROL and run by the non-elected /
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