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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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lchic
- 10:41pm Apr 4, 2002 EST (#1084
of 1104)
Iraq The
Power of the People might be the premature-death of a future
leader ?
lchic
- 10:57pm Apr 4, 2002 EST (#1085
of 1104)
Korea N/S USA
From the Korean War until 1991, the U.S. had hundreds of
nuclear weapons in the South, with more than 150 nuclear warheads
stored at Kunsan. There were nuclear units at ten locations
throughout South Korea. Though the U.S. now claims it has no
nuclear weapons on the land base of Korea, it is believed almost
certainly that it possesses them on ships offshore.
The U.S. operates two bombing ranges, one called Koon ni at
the village of Maehyang Ri on the west side of the Peninsula, the
other near Mt. Taebak on the east side. Popular Korean opposition
to the range at Maehyang Ri has led to its being called the
Vieques of Korea, because of similarities to the struggle of
Puerto Ricans to rid itself of the Navy bombing range at their
island of Vieques. The U.S. now acknowledges the presence of
Depleted Uranuim (DU) munitions in Korea, and admitted there were
two inadvertant uses of DU weapons in 1997. Koon ni was termed the
"nightmare range" when during the 1980s it served as the site for
nuclear air-to-surface bombing practice runs. http://www.brianwillson.com/awolkoreahist.html#conclusions
http://www.brianwillson.com/awolkoreahist.html
almarst-2001
- 11:38pm Apr 4, 2002 EST (#1086
of 1104)
“Reordering the World”
Starting from the New Vocabulary, from b "Humanitarian Bombing"
to "Colateral Damage" and finaly arriving at "Colonial
Democracy" ... With the MD somewere in the middle?
lchic
- 01:41am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1087
of 1104)
This needs updating : http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/glossary.html
lchic
- 01:49am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1088
of 1104)
.. This is where the Europeans can, and must, enter in a way
that isn't possible or of interest to America or to Britain acting
on its own. The ultimate tragedy of the present descent into the
abyss is not just the suffering of civilians on both sides, it is
the bitterness and unforgiving hatred of the next generation.
lchic
- 02:29am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1089
of 1104)
Children living areas bombed by USA+ally in the gulf war
are dying of cancer.
Gulf War
Depleated Uranium !
USA say it's harmless ---
see the truth in the
children's statistics
lchic
- 02:35am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1090
of 1104)
DEPLETED URANIUM
By Barbara Plett in Basra.
Ten years on from the Gulf War, Iraq is hoping that the West will
start paying attention to its contaminated battlefields. The
controversy over depleted uranium ammunition used by Nato in the
Balkans has also highlighted growing health problems in Iraq.
Similar weapons were used by the US-led coalition that drove
Iraqi troops from Kuwait. The southern city of Basra near the Kuwait
border has suffered the most from a dramatic rise in cancer and
birth defects. Dr Jawad, who works at the Cancer Hospital in Basra,
says the rate of cancer has increased nine-fold since the Gulf War.
Diseases There are also birth defects not seen in Iraq before,
and other diseases associated with exposure to radiation. The Gulf
War was the first time that depleted uranium weapons were used in
conflict. DU bullets are cheap and virtually guaranteed to pierce
any armour. The allied forces fired at least 300 tonnes of it,
littering the battlefield with residue that could remain radioactive
for an immense period of time. The US has denied there are any links
with cancer, but now Baghdad feels it may finally get a hearing
because of the Balkans controversy.
Iraq's demands Isolating depleted uranium as the sole cause
of any illness is difficult because the battlefield was a toxic soup
of dangerous pollutants. Iraq itself still has to account to the UN
for an alleged store of chemical and biological weapons. But it is
turning the tables now by making its own demands. Dr Sami al Arag, a
scientist on a government panel studying the war's aftermath,
believes that Iraq has the right to compensation. "The people who
have caused this damage to Iraq should be punished," he says. People
in Basra live 70km from the old battlefield, but they buy vegetables
grown near contaminated areas. They breath air and drink water that
could be polluted with radioactive particles. The World Health
Organisation is planning a study now to assess the risk of depleted
uranium on exposed populations. Dr. Jawad continues to care for his
patients, but he's also thinking of his own safety. "Certainly I am
worried about my health and my family and my children, as everybody
here in Basra. Nobody is spared, nobody," he said. People here just
want to know why they are getting sick and whether it can be
stopped. If the culprit is depleted uranium they are probably out of
luck because any clean up would take a very long time and cost a lot
of money. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/reports/international/gulfwar7.shtml
lchic
- 02:36am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1091
of 1104)
Holistic Accounting required here :
If the culprit is depleted uranium they are probably out
of luck because any clean up would take a very long time and cost
a lot of money.
lchic
- 02:39am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1092
of 1104)
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