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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 10:41pm Apr 4, 2002 EST (#1084 of 1104)

Iraq The Power of the People might be the premature-death of a future leader ?

lchic - 10:57pm Apr 4, 2002 EST (#1085 of 1104)

Korea N/S USA

    From the Korean War until 1991, the U.S. had hundreds of nuclear weapons in the South, with more than 150 nuclear warheads stored at Kunsan. There were nuclear units at ten locations throughout South Korea. Though the U.S. now claims it has no nuclear weapons on the land base of Korea, it is believed almost certainly that it possesses them on ships offshore.
    The U.S. operates two bombing ranges, one called Koon ni at the village of Maehyang Ri on the west side of the Peninsula, the other near Mt. Taebak on the east side. Popular Korean opposition to the range at Maehyang Ri has led to its being called the Vieques of Korea, because of similarities to the struggle of Puerto Ricans to rid itself of the Navy bombing range at their island of Vieques. The U.S. now acknowledges the presence of Depleted Uranuim (DU) munitions in Korea, and admitted there were two inadvertant uses of DU weapons in 1997. Koon ni was termed the "nightmare range" when during the 1980s it served as the site for nuclear air-to-surface bombing practice runs.

almarst-2001 - 11:38pm Apr 4, 2002 EST (#1086 of 1104)

“Reordering the World”

Starting from the New Vocabulary, from b "Humanitarian Bombing" to "Colateral Damage" and finaly arriving at "Colonial Democracy" ... With the MD somewere in the middle?

lchic - 01:41am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1087 of 1104)

This needs updating :

lchic - 01:49am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1088 of 1104)

    .. This is where the Europeans can, and must, enter in a way that isn't possible or of interest to America or to Britain acting on its own. The ultimate tragedy of the present descent into the abyss is not just the suffering of civilians on both sides, it is the bitterness and unforgiving hatred of the next generation.

lchic - 02:29am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1089 of 1104)

Children living areas bombed by USA+ally in the gulf war are dying of cancer.

Gulf War

Depleated Uranium !

USA say it's harmless ---
see the truth in the children's statistics

lchic - 02:35am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1090 of 1104)

By Barbara Plett in Basra.

Ten years on from the Gulf War, Iraq is hoping that the West will start paying attention to its contaminated battlefields. The controversy over depleted uranium ammunition used by Nato in the Balkans has also highlighted growing health problems in Iraq.

Similar weapons were used by the US-led coalition that drove Iraqi troops from Kuwait. The southern city of Basra near the Kuwait border has suffered the most from a dramatic rise in cancer and birth defects. Dr Jawad, who works at the Cancer Hospital in Basra, says the rate of cancer has increased nine-fold since the Gulf War.

Diseases There are also birth defects not seen in Iraq before, and other diseases associated with exposure to radiation. The Gulf War was the first time that depleted uranium weapons were used in conflict. DU bullets are cheap and virtually guaranteed to pierce any armour. The allied forces fired at least 300 tonnes of it, littering the battlefield with residue that could remain radioactive for an immense period of time. The US has denied there are any links with cancer, but now Baghdad feels it may finally get a hearing because of the Balkans controversy.

Iraq's demands Isolating depleted uranium as the sole cause of any illness is difficult because the battlefield was a toxic soup of dangerous pollutants. Iraq itself still has to account to the UN for an alleged store of chemical and biological weapons. But it is turning the tables now by making its own demands. Dr Sami al Arag, a scientist on a government panel studying the war's aftermath, believes that Iraq has the right to compensation. "The people who have caused this damage to Iraq should be punished," he says. People in Basra live 70km from the old battlefield, but they buy vegetables grown near contaminated areas. They breath air and drink water that could be polluted with radioactive particles. The World Health Organisation is planning a study now to assess the risk of depleted uranium on exposed populations. Dr. Jawad continues to care for his patients, but he's also thinking of his own safety. "Certainly I am worried about my health and my family and my children, as everybody here in Basra. Nobody is spared, nobody," he said. People here just want to know why they are getting sick and whether it can be stopped. If the culprit is depleted uranium they are probably out of luck because any clean up would take a very long time and cost a lot of money.

lchic - 02:36am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1091 of 1104)

Holistic Accounting required here :

    If the culprit is depleted uranium they are probably out of luck because any clean up would take a very long time and cost a lot of money.

lchic - 02:39am Apr 5, 2002 EST (#1092 of 1104)

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