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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 02:11pm Apr 1, 2003 EST (# 10905 of 10909) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

These days, as in the past, people are mostly fighting about ideas - and in many, many, many places, those ideas are bad ideas in the simple, stark sense that they don't fit what they purport to - what they are supposed to.

That means there is a lot of room for improvement - and, within reason, and subject to exceptions, some just, some tragic - there's room for win-win solutions.

Solutions that would make sense to most of the professional military people in the world - if they looked at facts on the ground - and the lies that have been told, and the mistakes that have been made, on all sides.

lchic - 02:11pm Apr 1, 2003 EST (# 10906 of 10909)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Media - "" I have perhaps caught that old vice called "professional deformation", which makes a journalist either completely insensitive to his subject or too sensitive to it. In both cases, he would not be able to see the event with the required detachment, which may subsequently induce him to the distortion of the reality. In times like theses, we may very well fall into one of these traps and, either be robotized so that we report or analyze or comment without really feeling what we are talking about, or get so extremely involved in our job, so passionately concerned with its human side (be it people's sufferance or happiness, courage, or cowardice, sacrifice or selfishness, etc.), that we get overwhelmed with an unbalanced and necessarily partial view, without even noticing it. I am however hoping that I did not yet reach such a stage ...........

........ 2- If Saddam is not credible in his own country - not to speak of the Arab world in whose summits he did not show up since the eighties-, so who is resisting the allied forces right now? The people of Iraq? This is hardly the case. We would be more inspired to say: the resistance has been organized by the "popular army". For those who do not know, this is the militia of the Baath party, which Saddam himself founded since he was the second man in Iraq after the President Ahmed Hassan al Bakr, well before he founded the famous Republican guard. There was a Baathist theory since the seventies about the "popular army".

... 6- It is not a war between Saddam and Bush, for although those who demonstrate in the streets generally shout their slogans against Bush, they do not mean that they support Saddam either. Just observe that the latter's name never appears in the slogans. He is merely ignored by the demonstrators in the Western cities to the benefice of Iraq. It is peace in Iraq that they claim, not peace for Saddam. But is peace still possible with Saddam in power?

http://www.amin.org/eng/hichem_karoui/2003/mar25.html

fredmoore - 02:17pm Apr 1, 2003 EST (# 10907 of 10909)

In an attempt to break the depression and negativity to closure on this thread, I note that Psychological Operations are coming into the forefront of war news. This is positive.

However I cannot see the COHERENCE that ought to be possible.

The way to achieve maximum COHERENCE is to touch all participants each time a psi op is launched. Recent media images of night flares over Basra do this to an extent but there has to be more immediacy. This immediacy can be achieved by a recognisable musical accompaniment to psi ops which can break into the media and armed forces radio frequencies at the same time it is heard by civilians and troops in the field. A perfect symbolic song is the Lionel Richie track 'Se La'. The regae beat and the lyrics reinforce the coalition's mission of liberation with a sense of celebration. The whole world bears a responsibility to ensure a swift end and a positive outcome to this war. Instead of hapless negativity borne of being out of touch with the conflict and its true purpose all people should have the opportunity to be part of positive psi ops as they occur and at those times to share a positive thought for the Iraqi civilians involved.

So lets get some coherence .... bring out the sound trucks and remember: Many hands make light work and many minds make human laser work.

lchic - 02:17pm Apr 1, 2003 EST (# 10908 of 10909)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Quote "" In this moment, there is such a cacophony everywhere that leaves you with the amazing impression that either we are all lying or all blind. "" Hichem Karoui http://www.hichemkaroui.com/

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