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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2003 - 07:04pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10809 of 10823)

jorian319 - 05:42pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10802 of 10808)

jorian319 - 06:57pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10807 of 10808)

Jorian,

I frequently repeat myself. But rarely post exactly identical messages.

almarst2003 - 07:11pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10810 of 10823)

"basic patterns very often repeat again and again."

Regarding the hystory of Humanity, the detailed patterns are available only since very recently.

And those available are not very promising for our future. I wish I could share your optimism.

almarst2003 - 07:23pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10811 of 10823)

THE DOMINO EFFECT?

N.Korea Vows No Nuclear Concessions, Cites Iraq Sat March 29, 2003 03:15 AM ET By Samuel Len - http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2470287

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea vowed on Saturday to resist all international demands on the communist state to allow nuclear inspections or agree to disarm, saying Iraq had made this mistake and was now paying the price.

"The DPRK would have already met the same miserable fate as Iraq's had it compromised its revolutionary principle and accepted the demand raised by the imperialists and its followers for "nuclear inspection" and disarmament,"

jorian319 - 07:27pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10812 of 10823)

May I suggest, alarmst, that you might be more inclined to share my optimism if you stopped taking the word of despotic regimes as gospel.

almarst2003 - 07:32pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10813 of 10823)

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqis are finding it almost impossible to make a phone call as U.S. air raids destroy a telecommunications network that took them years and hundreds of millions of dollars to rebuild after the last Gulf War - http://www.reuters.com/newsChannelIraq.jhtml?type=focusIraqNews&csMoreBasket=US_EDS_PICKS_MORE&_requestid=997209

When Geneva Convention still meant somthing other the some convention in Geneva, this was regarderd as a WAR CRIME.

rshow55 - 07:34pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10814 of 10823)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Almarst should take your word, or Bush's word as gospel?

Why?

http://www.subvertise.org/details.php?code=453 shows a very effective poster which includes this quote:

" Why of course the people don't want war -- but after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship . . Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country. ......... Hermann Goering - Nuremberg Trials.

The poster also includes passages from President Bush's State of the Union Adress.

We need a sense of proportion.

Leaders may or may not be right. It should not be "too easy" for a nation to be brought to their bidding.

On issues where facts matter, including missile defense, facts need to be checked.

This thread shows, in some detail, what might be possible, but also why checking that means anything is difficult.

If leaders of nation states wanted some key facts checked, it would happen, and the world would be much safer.

Leaders like Saddam need to be restrained.

Bush does, too.

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