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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2003 - 06:22pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10804 of 10812)

jorian,

What prevents you to raise a voice of wisdom rught here and now?

What is exactly you would like to share and discuss?

Don't be afraid. Go ahead. I can assure you, no one was ever hurt here, yet.

rshow55 - 06:30pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10805 of 10812)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The NYT cares about this thread, or it would have closed long ago. The Bush administration does as well - neither gisterme's posting's nor jorian310's are happening by accident.

There are few participants, but serious ones.

Almarst , you asked why I was optimistic (though terribly concerned). The reason is, that if we can get some control on "the culture of lying" we can live in a much safer world.

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?8@@.ee7b2bd/1705

One of the basic arguments for the existence of God - much used in the Middle Ages and now, and probably ageless, is that the Universe is Orderly, and so must have a maker.

Whether that's right or not - the universe is orderly.

10473 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.ar8Zay8K65p.2397156@.f28e622/12022

A reason things can be sorted out so often, on things that matter, is that basic patterns very often repeat again and again.

Fractals circumstances and SELF-SIMILARITY: http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/chaos-game/node5.html

10330-10332 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.ar8Zay8K65p.2397156@.f28e622/11876

There's plenty to hope for, if we work at it - and if people get concerned enough to think straight - we can sort out a lot.

1536 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1704

1537 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1705 gives reasons why I keep working. If we can cut the incidence of lies - we can find degrees of orderliness that make the world much safer.

I'm doing just what I promised Bill Casey I would - and there is a good chance - if people check that a lot can get a lot better.

rshow55 - 06:45pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10806 of 10812)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Almarst , you could be wrong when you say that

"no one was ever hurt here, yet."

Postings like 10766 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.ar8Zay8K65p.2397156@.f28e622/12316 , if they were checked, could "hurt" the Bush administration.

If it "hurt" them enough - they might do the job reasonable people expect them to do.

jorian319 - 06:57pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10807 of 10812)

TOO MUCH OF A "GOOD" THING?

We are effecting discourse.

Says Rshow.

Unfortunately that discourse consists of three people (assuming no sockpuppets), whos posts comprise over 90% of this forum.

I doubt if one lurker a month reads more than one post total, after clicking on "missile defense" and seeing not a word about it, just a running sermon by Rshowalarmstchick. Most of Rshow's posts consist of epic lists of links to other Rshow posts and Rshow's site - sheesh! Effecting discourse? If you think so, I think it's effecting YOU. Which of course, is to be applauded.

almarst2003 - 06:59pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10808 of 10812)

Robert - "the culture of lying"

This is just a symptom, a servant, a tool.

The questions are:

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE?

WHO BENEFITS?

WHY IT IS SO SUCCESSFULL AND PERVASIVE IN A COUNTRY OF A SUPPOSEDLY FREE MEDIA?

Then, may be, there will be an answer to this one:

WHY ITS SO EASY TO "SELL" THE WAR HERE IN US?

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